Calculating Net Charge of a Gas with Lost Electrons

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The problem involves calculating the net charge of a gas consisting of 1.75 moles of oxygen molecules, where a small fraction of these molecules has lost an electron. Participants are exploring how to determine the number of lost electrons and the resulting charge of the gas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the total number of oxygen molecules and how to derive the number of lost electrons from that total. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the number of molecules and the charge associated with the lost electrons.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to calculate the number of lost electrons. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the counting of electrons versus molecules. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a specific focus on the implications of losing electrons in terms of charge.

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A container holds a gas consisting of 1.75 moles of oxygen molecules. One in a million of these molecules has lost a single electron. What is the net charge of the gas.


1.6 x 10^-19(C/e^-) x n(e^-)

So I'm looking for the number of electrons (n) which I think is 1.05625 x 10^19 and the final answer would be .169C. "Working backwards from the answer in the back" but I do not understand how I would figure out the number of electrons. Help?
 
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Hi just.karl,

just.karl said:
A container holds a gas consisting of 1.75 moles of oxygen molecules. One in a million of these molecules has lost a single electron. What is the net charge of the gas.


1.6 x 10^-19(C/e^-) x n(e^-)

So I'm looking for the number of electrons (n) which I think is 1.05625 x 10^19 and the final answer would be .169C. "Working backwards from the answer in the back" but I do not understand how I would figure out the number of electrons. Help?

How many molecules of oxygen are in 1.75 moles?
 
10.538 x 10^23 molecules ?
 
just.karl said:
10.538 x 10^23 molecules ?

I think that's right, so you know how many total molecules there are. Do you see what to do now?
 
Yeah, then I just divide that by 1 x 10^6 to get the number of electrons, then plug it into the original equation. Thanks! I really appreciate your help
 
just.karl said:
Yeah, then I just divide that by 1 x 10^6 to get the number of electrons, then plug it into the original equation. Thanks! I really appreciate your help

Glad to help! But remember that you weren't really counting electrons; that number was the number of oxygen molecules that had one more proton than electrons. (But the proton charge magnitude is the same as the electron charge magnitude.)
 
I thought that I was counting the number of molecules that are missing a electron and what the charge of the gas is without them?
 
just.karl said:
I thought that I was counting the number of molecules that are missing a electron and what the charge of the gas is without them?

That's exactly right. I must have just misread some of your statements.
 
lol alright, I probably mis wrote some of the statements. Thanks again!
 

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