Calculating Net Force on an Electron using E(r) and mx

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net force on an electron using the electric field E(r) and the mass times acceleration formula mx''. The participants emphasize the importance of understanding the direction of the force, which is given by the equation F = -eE(r), indicating that the force acts opposite to the electric field. The electric field is defined as E(r) = E0*sin(2πx/L)ey, where ey is the unit vector in the y-direction. Participants stress the need for clarity in vector representation and the correct interpretation of displacement in the x-direction.

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An electron is shot at an initial velocity V0=V0ex into an inhomogeneous electric field, that has a width L. Electric field strength is E(r)=E0*sin(2pi*x/L)*ey(ex and ey being vectors), the force acting on the electron is given by: F=-e*E(r). Calculate the net force acting on the electron, the v(t) ,r(t) function in the domain [0, L/V0]and its vertical displacement.
Relevant Equations
F=m*a
I just insterted E(r) into F to get the net force. After that I wrote mx''=Fnet and I don't know how to proceed (supposing that's the right way).
 
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Hello @CBA , :welcome: !

CBA said:
I just insterted E(r) into F to get the net force.
Which way is it pointing ?

A drawing might be helpful ... :smile:
 
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BvU said:
Hello @CBA , :welcome: !

Which way is it pointing ?

A drawing might be helpful ... :smile:
 

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While the electric field does not vary with time, the particle experiences the changing magnitude of the electric field at different times as it moves through it. This introduces a time dependence in the force equation. Try to derive the time dependent force on the particle.
 
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Good start. However:
  • Where is ## x=0## and where is ##x=L##
  • You draw all ##|\vec E|\;## equal
  • You don't answer which way ##\vec F_{\text{net}}\; ## is pointing
 
I think that the "X" in E(r) is the displacement in the x-direction, which is simply v0*t and I just instert it into the formula for F,which is =mx'' and it's simply math from there.
 
CBA said:
the formula for F,which is =mx''
Almost, but not quite -- or better: definitely not.

1. The formula is ##\vec F = m\vec a## : the acceleration is in the direction of the force

2. The force acting on the electron is given by: ##\vec F=-e\;\vec E(\vec r)## : the force is in opposite direction wrt the field

3. E(r)=E0*sin(2pi*x/L)*ey should be read as $$\vec E(\vec r)=E_0\,\sin\left ({2\pi\,x\over L}\right ) e_y$$with ##e_y = \hat y## , the unit vector in the y-direction !

As you see, a lot can go wrong if you don't pay attention to the vector character !

How about an update of the drawing ?

##\ ##
 
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Oh yes I forgot that it's in the Y-direction...
 

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Bertter than nothing, but a lot of room for improvement.
First of all
BvU said:
  • Where is ##{\bf x}## ## =0## and where is ##{\bf x}## ##= L\ ##
(you seem to think ##L## is in the y-direction)

And I would show only one of the two, not both. On a continuous y-axis

And my neck hurts from leaning over by ##\pi/2## :mad:
 
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So how are we doing with this nice exercise ?
 

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