Calculating Net Force on an Object Moving in a Plane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net force acting on an object moving in a plane, given its mass and position equations. The object has a mass of 6.00 kg, and its coordinates are defined by the equations x = 4t² - 1 and y = 2t³ + 6. The specific question is about determining the net force at time t = 5.00 s.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between position, velocity, and acceleration vectors in the context of the problem. There are attempts to derive the velocity and acceleration from the given position equations. Questions arise about using average versus instantaneous velocity and the application of calculus to find derivatives.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the necessary steps to compute velocity and acceleration. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of derivatives and Newton's second law, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

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There is a mention of the problem being part of a chapter exercise and its relevance to upcoming homework, indicating a structured learning environment. The discussion also reflects a calculus-based approach to the concepts involved.

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I'm having terrible difficulty starting this problem, it's one of the chapter excercises in the book and it's revisited in the homework later on. I'm going to give different data, as I would like to actually solve this one myself, I just need a kick start...

Homework Statement


We've got an object moving in a plane, no velocity is stated at all, just that it's moving. It's mass is 6.00 kg and it's coordinates are given by 2 equations, [tex]x = 4t^2 - 1[/tex] and [tex]y = 2t^3 + 6[/tex]. They are asking what the net force acting on this object is at time t = 5.00s.


Homework Equations


I know somewhere in there I'm going to use kinematic equations. I started by trying to find [tex]\Delta X[/tex] and [tex]\Delta Y[/tex]...



Thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction!
 
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It's in a plane, so position, velocity, acceleration, and force are all vectors with x and y components. The position vector is (x,y)=(4t2-1,2t3+6). Can you find the velocity vector? (How is velocity related to position?) Then, can you find the acceleration vector? Then, can you find the force vector?
 
Ah, that makes a lot of sense! Thank you so much! I was completely overlooking that.
 
Glad to help.
 
If I'm using position to get a velocity vector with the formula [tex]V_x_{avg} = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t}[/tex], can I use t = 0 for my [tex]t_i[/tex]?
 
You should be computing instantaneous velocity, not average velocity.

I assume this is a calculus-based course?
 
For the formulas I have you still need [tex]\Delta x[/tex] and [tex]\Delta t[/tex]

[tex]v_x = lim_{\Delta t \rightarrow 0}\frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t}[/tex]

...and yes, this is calculus based.

I feel like I've missed a lesson or missed something in class.
 
That limit defines the derivative of x with respect to t. Given x as a simple function of t, say, x=t2, can you compute the derivative dx/dt ?
 
OH! So it would be 2t then... If the function was in fact [tex]t^2[/tex].
 
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crazy_shoes said:
I'm having terrible difficulty starting this problem, it's one of the chapter excercises in the book and it's revisited in the homework later on. I'm going to give different data, as I would like to actually solve this one myself, I just need a kick start...

Homework Statement


We've got an object moving in a plane, no velocity is stated at all, just that it's moving. It's mass is 6.00 kg and it's coordinates are given by 2 equations, [tex]x = 4t^2 - 1[/tex] and [tex]y = 2t^3 + 6[/tex]. They are asking what the net force acting on this object is at time t = 5.00s.


Homework Equations


I know somewhere in there I'm going to use kinematic equations. I started by trying to find [tex]\Delta X[/tex] and [tex]\Delta Y[/tex]...

You would need two formulas:

1. Newton's second law [itex]\mathbf{F} = m \mathbf{a}[/itex] and
2. definition of components of the acceleration vector

[tex]a_x = d^2x(t)/dt^2[/tex]
[tex]a_y = d^2y(t)/dt^2[/tex]

Eugene
 
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So, if my position in the x direction is a function of time, like [tex]x=2t^2[/tex] the derivative of that is [tex]4t[/tex] which should be my velocity in the x direction. Then a second derivative should give me 4 and that should be my acceleration in the x direction. Am I on the right track?
 
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crazy_shoes said:
So, if my position in the x direction is a function of time, like [tex]x=2t^2[/tex] the derivative of that is [tex]4t[/tex] which should be my velocity in the x direction. Then a second derivative should give me 4 and that should be my acceleration in the x direction. Am I on the right track?

Yes, you got it.

Eugene.
 
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Thanks! It's much appreciated. Good thing I have a whole week to finish studying for my test!
 

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