Calculating Nσ for Table Area: Theory & Practice

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of Nσ for the area of a table, comparing practical and theoretical values. Participants explore the theoretical framework and practical application of measuring the table's dimensions and how to derive the number of standard deviations between these values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a formula for calculating Nσ as |S practical - S theoretical|/SQRT[(σ of S practical)^2 + (σ of S theoretical)^2].
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the notation used and seeks clarification on the terms defined in the formula.
  • A participant questions the clarity of the definitions for X1, X2, σ1, and σ2, suggesting that the notation could be improved.
  • Further clarification is provided that Nσ, or N_sigma, refers to the number of standard deviations that the difference between two values represents, with a suggestion that this value should be less than three.
  • One participant notes that the number three is often used as a threshold to distinguish between "not significant" and "probably significant" results.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the notation and definitions used in the discussion. There is no consensus on the clarity of the formula or the definitions, and the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the correct interpretation of Nσ.

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Limitations include unclear definitions of variables and notation, as well as the potential ambiguity in the application of the formula to practical scenarios.

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Supposing a table's width and length are measured a number of times using a ruler with a certain resolution. A manufacturer provides the theoretical values for both length and width. Thus we may calculate the practical and theoretical values of the table's area (S). How may Nσ for the area of the table S be calculated, given that Nσ = |X1 - X2|/SQRT(σ1^2 + σ2^2)? Will it be correct to say that Nσ equals |S practical - S theoretical|/SQRT[(σ of S practical)^2 + (σ of S theoretical)^2]?
 
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I am a bit confused by your notation, but |S practical - S theoretical|/SQRT[(σ of S practical)^2 + (σ of S theoretical)^2] looks fine.
 
What do you deem confusing in my notation? Wouldn't the latter determine the number of standard deviations between the two values? It is under the LSE section in my booklet and indeed resembles chi^2, does it not?
 
You did not define X1, X2, σ1 and σ1 (in addition, it is better to write indices like X1 or X_1). And "Nσ" is N multiplied by σ? That is clearly not the result of such a formula.
 
The booklet itself doesn't make that very clear. X_1 and x_2 are two values the difference of which, in terms of sigma, needs to be determined. Nsigma, presumably N_sigma, apparently denotes the number of sigmas that distance is equivalent to, which, the booklet states, ought to be less than three. Does that make more sense? Is my evaluation of N_sigma for the table's area then correct?
 
mfb said:
[...] looks fine.

3 is an arbitrary number, but it is frequently used to distinguish "not significant" and "probably significant"
 
Thank you for your replies.
 

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