Calculating Orbital Periods for Spherical Planets in Orbit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital periods of two spherical planets, Planet X and Planet Q, in circular orbits around a star named Gort. The original poster provides specific parameters for Planet X and seeks to determine the orbital period of Planet Q based on its distance from the star.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Kepler's third law and the necessity of considering the mass of the star in relation to the planets. Some suggest that the mass of the star can be ignored if it is significantly larger than the planets. There is also a focus on maintaining consistent units throughout the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of Kepler's third law and its application to the problem. Some have provided guidance on how to set up the equations without needing to compute the mass of the star or convert units to seconds. The conversation indicates a shift towards using ratios and maintaining units in days and meters.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the correct formulation of Kepler's third law, with some participants questioning the original poster's equation. The original poster's reported answer was marked incorrect, leading to further examination of the assumptions and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



Spherical Planet X (mass MX = 7.81x10^24 kg, radius RX = 2.09x10^6 m) travels in a circular orbit of radius ro = 4.39x10^11 m around the star Gort. Its period of orbit is Τ = 390 Earth days.

b) Planet Q is also in circular orbit around the star Gort, at radius 24.76x10^11 m. Find the period of orbit of this planet.

Homework Equations



T²/r² = 4π²/(GM)

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the mass of the Gort to be 4.41 * 10^(31), using the same form I indicated under "equations". Then...

T = √((4.39 * 10^(11) + 24.76 * 10^(11)) * 4π²/(6.67 * 10^(-11) * 4.41 * 10^(31)))
≈ 5.765 * 10^8 seconds

Since 1 day = 24 * 3600 seconds, we have...

5.765 * 10^8 seconds * days / (24 * 3600) seconds → 6673 days, and the answer is marked incorrectly.

I don't get why this happens. I reported this to my professor, and he said that he got the correct answer that is different from the answer I have.
 
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You don't need to muck around with the mass of the star if you just assume that it's much, much greater than that of the two planets. Nor do you need to worry about unit conversions so long as you maintain the same units throughout. Just apply the statement of Kepler's third law directly and form the appropriate ratios.

As for units, might as well let the time unit TU be "days", and since both radii in terms of 1011m, use that as the distance unit; DU = 1011m. So planet X has T = 390 TU; r = 4.39 DU.
 
The formula you have for Kepler's third law is incorrect. It must relate the square of the period with the cube of the radius.

Secondly, you don't need to compute the mass of Gort (unless you also have the mass of Q, in which case you could use a more accurate formula). The right hand side is the same for both planets, so you could equate their left hand sides directly. You don't need to convert time units to seconds in this case, you can just use days.
 
gneill said:
You don't need to muck around with the mass of the star if you just assume that it's much, much greater than that of the two planets. Nor do you need to worry about unit conversions so long as you maintain the same units throughout. Just apply the statement of Kepler's third law directly and form the appropriate ratios.

As for units, might as well let the time unit TU be "days", and since both radii in terms of 1011m, use that as the distance unit; DU = 1011m. So planet X has T = 390 TU; r = 4.39 DU.

Thank you very much! Then, it's just...

390²/4.39³ = T²/24.76³
T = √(390²/4.39³ * 24.76³)
 
NasuSama said:
Thank you very much! Then, it's just...

390²/4.39³ = T²/24.76³
T = √(390²/4.39³ * 24.76³)

Yup. What's your result?
 
gneill said:
Yup. What's your result?

That is approximately 5220.
 
NasuSama said:
That is approximately 5220.

Looks good :smile:
 

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