Calculating Outward Force of a Tornado on a Wall

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the outward force exerted by a tornado on a wall, given the pressure difference between the inside and outside of the house. The subject area pertains to fluid dynamics and pressure forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of pressure and force, questioning whether the pressure inside the house is zero and how that affects the net force on the wall. There is an emphasis on understanding the role of both external and internal pressures.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of pressure differences and the necessity of considering both internal and external forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the net force rather than just the outward force from external pressure.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the pressure inside the house, as the problem does not specify this information. Participants are encouraged to infer the conditions based on typical atmospheric scenarios.

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Homework Statement


Air within the funnel of a large tornado may have a pressure of only 0.2 atm. Atmospheric pressure is 101300 Pa. What is the approximate outward force F on a 11m X 16 m wall if a tornado suddenly envelopes the house? Answer in units of N.


Homework Equations


P = F/A


The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 0.2 atm to 20260 Pa. The area is 11m X 16 m = 176 m^2.

F = (20260 Pa) (176 m^2)
F = 3.56576 X 10^6 N

The answer is wrong. What did I overlook?
 
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is there 0 pressure inside the house?
 
The problem doesn't say.
 
kiwikahuna said:
I converted 0.2 atm to 20260 Pa. The area is 11m X 16 m = 176 m^2.

F = (20260 Pa) (176 m^2)
F = 3.56576 X 10^6 N

The answer is wrong. What did I overlook?
For one thing, you only calculated the inward force exerted by the air outside the house. As ice109 says, you forgot that it's the air inside the house that pushes the walls outward. (Find the net force.)
 
kiwikahuna said:
The problem doesn't say.

you have to infer it. if this house is inside the atmosphere is there zero pressure inside the house?
 
Doc Al said:
For one thing, you only calculated the inward force exerted by the air outside the house. As ice109 says, you forgot that it's the air inside the house that pushes the walls outward. (Find the net force.)

cheater...
 

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