Calculating Particle Speed in a Relativistic Collision

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a particle in a relativistic collision scenario, where one particle with a known rest mass and kinetic energy collides with a stationary particle of another rest mass. The context is within the realm of relativistic physics, specifically focusing on energy and momentum conservation during collisions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the kinetic energy equation related to relativistic mass but expresses uncertainty about their calculations leading to an incorrect answer. Other participants suggest showing the work done so far to facilitate further discussion. One participant proposes using conservation laws for energy and momentum and mentions the potential use of 4-vector notation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding relevant equations and methods to analyze the collision, but no consensus has been reached on the correct path forward.

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The original poster has converted energy values into mass equivalents but seems to struggle with the application of these conversions in their calculations. There is an indication of potential confusion regarding the relationship between rest mass, kinetic energy, and the resulting speed of the particle.

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Homework Statement


A particle of rest mass 1.30 MeV/c2 and kinetic energy 2.70 MeV collides with a stationary particle of rest mass 2.50 MeV/c2. After the collision, the particles stick together. Find the speed of the first particle before the collision


Homework Equations



[tex]KE=(1-\gamma)mc^2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I am positive this is the right equation to use but I keep getting the wrong answer.
I don't know why!
 
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Show us what you have so far, and we can go from there. That might be one of the equations that will be used, but you need to show some sort of attempt at a solution instead of simply stating that you're getting an incorrect answer.
 
fine.
That equation goes to:[tex]c*\sqrt(1-(\frac{E_rest}{KE-E_rest})^2)[/tex]
I converted 1.30 MeV/c^2=2.314E-30 kg, included in E rest
and 2.70 MeV=4.325E-13 J, for KE

I get: 1.11E8 m/s

oh [tex]E_rest=mc^2[/tex]
 
The best way to proceed is to write down the relevant equations for the conservation of momentum and conservation of energy:

[tex]E_{1} + E_{2} = E_{final}[/tex]
[tex]\textbf{p}_{1} + 0 = \textbf{p}_{final}[/tex]

Initially, the first particle has kinetic and rest mass energy, and the second particle has only rest mass energy (note that we are doing everything in the lab frame). The end product only has one 'particle', with a modified kinetic energy and rest mass energy. For momentum, the only change from initial to final is that the final combined 'particle' has more mass.

Use [tex]E^2 - \textbf{p}^2c^2 = m^2c^4[/tex] and then solve for the momentum of the final particle.

This problem can be solved in a few lines if you use 4-vector notation, and in a few more lines if you do everything component-wise.
 
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