Calculating Power Required for a Tank to Travel Uphill on an Incline

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The discussion revolves around calculating the extra power required for a tank to maintain a uniform speed while traveling uphill on an incline. The tank's mass and speed are provided, along with the incline's slope ratio. Participants are exploring the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether the distance traveled uphill is necessary for calculating the extra power required. Some suggest that the rate of height gain can be used instead. Others are discussing how to relate energy changes to power calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights on how to approach the problem. There is a focus on deriving power from energy changes and clarifying the relationship between height gain and speed. No consensus has been reached, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the incline's angle and the relationship between horizontal and vertical displacement in their calculations. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the information needed to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement



A Tank of mass 80 metric tons is travvelling at a uniform speed of 54Km/hr on a level terrian. It then starts traveling uphill on an incline of 1 in 10 (sine slope). Claculate the extra power required from the engine in megawatts to maintain the smae speed on the incline.

m = 80,000 kg
v = 15 m/s

Homework Equations



Kinetic Energy = \frac{1}{2}mv^2

Potential Energy = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


You see, this is my problem. I'm at a loss on how to start I think I might be reading into this to0 much.

Is the extra power in MW required impossible to work out unless a distance traveled uphill is given in which case the following would be used:

Work = Fs\cos \phi

In which case how can I work the Force propelling hte tank in a horizontal direction?

The next part of the question is When it has traveled 100m up the incline the driver stops and has a drinks and so on. . . . . . . (I'm happy with this section of the question). Is this just the authors question writing or am I just reading too much into the original problem?

Thanks in advance Jonno.
 
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Jonno said:
Is the extra power in MW required impossible to work out unless a distance traveled uphill is given...
You don't need the distance you need the rate at which height is gained, which you can figure out given the speed and the angle of the incline. All you need to figure is the additional power needed to go uphill (against gravity).
 
Thanks Doc Al,

I see where you're coming from.

So if the tank gains 1 metre in height for every 10m traveled in a second gains height at a rate of 1.5m/s

so using E = mgh I can work out the extra energy in joules and convert to Power (J/s) From then?

Thanks again.
 
if you substitute h [m] by hdot [m/s] (with the dot on top, meaning it's the time-derivative) then E also becomes a time derivative. That's what you want. E [J] becomes P [W] (J/s=W)
so hdot is 1.5 m/s yes yes!
 
Going back to Fs\cos\phi - change s to v, and use sin for changing elevation, as opposed to cos for horizontal displacement.
 

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