Calculating Probability and Variance for Randomly Opened Tins

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The problem involves calculating the probability distribution and variance for a random variable representing the number of tins opened until a tin of peaches is found. The scenario includes a total of 3 tins of tomato soup and 4 tins of peaches, all indistinguishable once the labels are removed.

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  • Participants discuss the need to create a probability distribution table for the random variable X, which denotes the number of tins opened to find a peach. They explore the probabilities for different values of X, questioning how to calculate these probabilities based on the sequence of tins opened.

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Some participants have begun calculating specific probabilities for different values of X and are checking their work against the requirement that the total probability sums to 1. There is an acknowledgment of the need to find the variance once the probabilities are established.

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Participants note that the problem requires careful consideration of the sequence of events and the probabilities associated with each trial, as well as the necessity to ensure that the total probability equals 1.

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I am having problem to calculate some probability...please help me and explain to me how you get the answer

In order to use the labels in a competition a housewife removes the labels from 3 tins of tomato soup and from 4 tins of peaches, but forget to mark the tins which, without their labels are all identical. The housewife opens successive tins, chosen at random, looking for a tin of peaches. The random variable X denotes the number of tins opened up to and including the first tin of peaches.

Tabulate the probability distribution of X and show that var(X) = 16/25


Please help me i just don't know where to start..
 
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Question says we must draw up a probability distribution table of X = the number of tins one must open to get a peach. So let's start at that...

Say X = 1. So, we need to find the probability that in the very first try we open a peach tin. Can you find this?

When X = 2, we need the probability that the first tin we opened was NOT peach, but the second tin was.

For X = 3, find probability that the first two tins opened were tomatos, and the third one was peach...and so on

Similarly, you find all the probabilities, till X = 4 (Why 4??)

Then draw a table. That is your answer. Then find var(X) with the formula.
 
praharmitra said:
Question says we must draw up a probability distribution table of X = the number of tins one must open to get a peach. So let's start at that...

Say X = 1. So, we need to find the probability that in the very first try we open a peach tin. Can you find this?

When X = 2, we need the probability that the first tin we opened was NOT peach, but the second tin was.

For X = 3, find probability that the first two tins opened were tomatos, and the third one was peach...and so on

Similarly, you find all the probabilities, till X = 4 (Why 4??)

Then draw a table. That is your answer. Then find var(X) with the formula.


Hmmmm i understand it partially. But i think that if my table is correct that is the total probability = 1 so i can manage the variance

for the probability of of getting 1 peach tin

P(x=1) = (4/7)

Getting it on the 2nd trial
P(x=2) = ( 3/7 x 4/6) = (2/7)

Getting it on the 3th trial
P(x=3) = ( 3/7 x 2/6 x 4/5) = (4/35)

Getting it on the fourth trial
P(x=4) = ( 3/7 x 2/6 x 1/5 x 4/4) = (1/35)

SO adding all the probability give me 1 (So my answer must be correct..hehehe
 
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