Calculating Probability for Transferred and Selected Balls

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This discussion focuses on calculating probabilities related to transferring balls between two boxes. The user successfully applies the Law of Total Probability and Bayes' Theorem to determine the probability of drawing a red ball from Box 2 after transferring balls from Box 1. The calculations yield a probability of approximately 0.5795 for drawing a red ball and 0.5099 for transferring one red and one white ball given that a red ball was drawn. The user questions the textbook's approach, which incorrectly defines event B and omits the necessary division by P(B) in its calculations.

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Hello,

Homework Statement



Suppose we have two boxes, numbered 1 and 2.
Box 1 contains 10 white and 6 numbered red balls, while Box 2 contains 8 white and 12 numbered red balls.
We take out 2 balls from Box 1 and are transferred in Box 2. Then, we choose 1 ball from Box 2.

a) Find the probability to take out one red ball from Box 2 and
b) Find the probability that we transferred one red and one white ball from Box 1 in Box 2, given that we took out a red ball from Box 2.

Homework Equations



The relevant relations are the Law of Total Probability:
P(B) = \sum_{i=1}^n P(A_i)P(B|A_i)

and the Bayes Theorem:
P(A_i|B) = \dfrac{P(A_i)P(B|A_i)}{\sum_{i=1}^n P(A_i)P(B|A_i)}

The Attempt at a Solution



My solution is:

Suppose we have the following events:

A1: we transferred two white balls from Box 1 to Box 2
A2: we transferred one white and one red ball from Box 1 to Box 2
A3: we transferred two red balls from Box 1 to Box 2
B: we took out one red ball from Box 2

a) Applying the Law of total probability, I have:

P(B) = P(A1)P(B|A1) + P(A2)P(B|A2) + P(A3)P(B|A3) =
<br /> \begin{align}<br /> = \dfrac{\binom{10}{2}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{12}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} +<br /> \dfrac{\binom{10}{1} \cdot \binom{6}{1}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{13}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} + \dfrac{\binom{6}{2}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{14}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} =\\\\<br /> = \dfrac{45}{120} \cdot \dfrac{12}{22} + \dfrac{10 \cdot 6}{120} \cdot \dfrac{13}{22} + \dfrac{15 \cdot 14}{120 \cdot 22} = 0.5795<br /> \end{align}<br />

b) P(A2|B) = \dfrac{\text{P(A2)} \cdot \text{P(B|A2)}}{\text{P(B)}} = \dfrac{\dfrac{\binom{10}{1} \cdot \binom{6}{1}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{13}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}}}{0.5795} = 0.5099

4. Textbook's Solution

The textbook confuses me, because it defines the event B as "we take out a white ball from Box 2" and then for question (a), it computes:

P(B) = P(A1)P(B|A1) + P(A2)P(B|A2) + P(A3)P(B|A3) =

<br /> \begin{align}<br /> = \dfrac{\binom{10}{2}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{10}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} +<br /> \dfrac{\binom{10}{1} \cdot \binom{6}{1}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{9}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} + \dfrac{\binom{6}{2}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{8}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}} \text{It stops here.}<br /> \end{align}<br />

Also, for (b), it computes:

P(A2|B) = \dfrac{\text{P(A2)} \cdot \text{P(B|A2)}}{\text{P(B)}} = \dfrac{\binom{10}{1} \cdot \binom{6}{1}}{\binom{16}{2}} \cdot \dfrac{\binom{9}{1}}{\binom{22}{1}}

Shouldn't this be divided by P(B), as well?

Is the textbook wrong or am I missing something?

Thank you.
 
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I agree that this should get divided by P(B).
 

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