Calculating Projector Focal Length with SXGA & Screen Dimensions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the focal length range of a projector based on screen dimensions and display specifications, specifically for an SXGA projector. Participants explore the relationship between focal length, magnification, and the dimensions of the display and screen.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is unsure how to calculate the focal length using the screen dimensions and questions the relevance of square pixels and SXGA specifications.
  • Another participant suggests that magnification must be considered, which requires knowing the screen size.
  • There is a discussion about the need to determine the horizontal dimension of the display to calculate magnification.
  • Participants mention relevant equations, including the lens formula (1/f = 1/v + 1/u) and the magnification formula (M = v/u), as well as the relationship between magnification and dimensions of the screen and display.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the relevance of numerical aperture and lens diameter in this context.
  • Another participant describes their approach to solving the problem by assuming a value for the horizontal dimension and using it to calculate focal lengths at different distances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of magnification and the relevant equations but do not reach a consensus on the necessity of certain parameters like numerical aperture or the method of determining the horizontal dimension of the display.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions are made regarding the horizontal dimension of the display, and there is a lack of clarity on how the diagonal and horizontal dimensions relate to each other. The discussion does not resolve how to definitively calculate the focal length range without additional information.

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Hi. It asks to calculate the focal length range of a projector of square pixel SXGA is from 4 to 12 m from the screen. It gives the diagonal size of the display (in mm) as well as the horizontal size (in m). The thing that am not sure about is how the focal length would be calculated with the screen dimensions and whether info about square pixels and SXGA would be required. I assume the range means to calculate the focal length at 12 then at 4 and take these values away from one another?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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I am guessing you'll need to take the magnification into account, which means you would need to know the size of the screen as well.

The equation for magnification, and other stuff about lenses, is here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=148

The question sounds a little weird, since the focal length of a lens is not adjustable.
 
Redbelly98 said:
I am guessing you'll need to take the magnification into account, which means you would need to know the size of the screen as well.

The equation for magnification, and other stuff about lenses, is here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=148

The question sounds a little weird, since the focal length of a lens is not adjustable.


Thanks for the reply. Interestingly enough I also wondered whether the magnification would be taken into the account, as magnification is included in the notes. What was a bit weird was how it gave the diagonal dimension of the display and the horizontal dimension of the screen?
 
questions_uk said:
What was a bit weird was how it gave the diagonal dimension of the display and the horizontal dimension of the screen?

Okay. Looks like you'll have to figure out the horizontal dimension of the display, in order to get the magnification.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Okay. Looks like you'll have to figure out the horizontal dimension of the display, in order to get the magnification.

That's what I thought, and then compare the display with the screen. However, the magnification depends on U and V which I think are the lengths from the display to the lens and from the lens to the screen.
 
questions_uk said:
That's what I thought, and then compare the display with the screen. However, the magnification depends on U and V which I think are the lengths from the display to the lens and from the lens to the screen.

Yes, that's right.

It would be useful, if you haven't done so already, to list the equations that are relevant to solving this problem.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Yes, that's right.

It would be useful, if you haven't done so already, to list the equations that are relevant to solving this problem.

Hi. Some of the equations I've got include:

1 / f = 1 / v + 1 / u

And M = v / u

Also am not sure if this is related to it but

Numerical Aperture / F number

N = F / D

Thanks!
 
Okay, good. I'm thinking the numerical aperture and lens diameter won't come into play here, at least I haven't seen anything yet that would relate to them. (Of course, I also haven't seen the actual problem statement either.)

The magnification equation and "1/f = ..." are important here.

Something that is pretty much assumed, but maybe not obvious to students, is that M is also, by definition,

M = (width of screen) / (width of display)​

See if you can use that, plus the "1/f = ..." and magnification equations you listed, to solve the problem.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Okay, good. I'm thinking the numerical aperture and lens diameter won't come into play here, at least I haven't seen anything yet that would relate to them. (Of course, I also haven't seen the actual problem statement either.)

The magnification equation and "1/f = ..." are important here.

Something that is pretty much assumed, but maybe not obvious to students, is that M is also, by definition,

M = (width of screen) / (width of display)​

See if you can use that, plus the "1/f = ..." and magnification equations you listed, to solve the problem.

Thanks for your help! I basically used the other magnification rule you gave and assumed a value for the horizontal dimension.

This could then be be used with M = v / u thus calculating u as v and M are already known and obtaining a v value. With the u and f values I used 1 / f = 1 / u + 1 / v to obtain the focal length at 4 and 12 m. Then obtained the difference between these two values to obtain the range.

But yeah I did assume a value for the horizontal component. It gives the diagonal dimensions.

Thanks!
 
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Sounds like you pretty much have it then.

If you knew the width/height ratio for the display, you could figure out the horizontal dimension rather than just "assume a value".
 
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Thanks for your help. I used the resolution of the dosplay to work out the horizontal dimensions of it.
 

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