Calculating Push Force to Drag Cow Manure: Guide & Tips

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The discussion revolves around calculating the push force required to drag cow manure, considering factors such as the coefficient of friction, moisture content, and the physical properties of the manure. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of this problem, including methods for effective manure removal and the implications of different manure consistencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the formula F=μN with a coefficient of friction between 0.4 and 0.8, questioning if other parameters should be considered.
  • Another participant notes that the friction coefficient is typically relevant between two solids and raises concerns about the applicability of friction if the manure is wet.
  • A participant inquires about the optimal distance between the pusher and the surface to minimize friction and seeks advice on effective sweeping techniques.
  • Discussion includes the variability of manure properties based on diet and moisture content, with references to literature on handling manure.
  • One participant mentions that bull manure is easier to push than cow manure, prompting a light-hearted response.
  • Clarifications about total solid concentration (TS) are requested, with explanations provided regarding the composition of organic matter in manure.
  • Participants discuss methods for managing manure, including the use of straw or sawdust, and potential applications for the manure after removal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of moisture content and the physical properties of manure on the push force required. There is no consensus on the best methods for handling manure or the precise calculations needed for push force.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering the moisture content and physical state of the manure, which can significantly affect friction and handling methods. The discussion references various sources for further information on manure properties and handling techniques.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in agricultural practices, waste management, or those seeking practical advice on handling manure effectively.

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hello folks,

If i want to drag(push force) cow manure of suppose 500kg and i took help from google to find out its coefficient of friction which is found is 0.4 to 0.8. So according to F=μN if i am right taking 0.8 coefficient of friction, my push force is 500*0.8?

Is there any other parameter i have to consider?

Guide me if anywhere i am wrong.

Thanks
 
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Your question is somewhat unusual, but theoretically OK.
Except that a friction coefficient is usually quoted between two different solids.

If the manure is wet it will be quite heavy and will tend to flow. Friction is probably inapplicable.

If it is dry, it will be light weight. The friction coefficient will be similar to wood or paper. It will tend to break up when pushed.

Laying newspaper, sprinkling sawdust, or dry dung between steel plates will often prevent them sliding on each other.
 
Thanks for your help. I never gave a thought of dry or wet concept.

Again if I'm to clean it up what should be my minimum distance between pusher lower part to rcc path. I'm just assuming 1cm but is there any way to figure that out? If I do push by dragging from bottom most part it'll touch rcc and there will be bigger COF which will lead to high push force required. so can suggest how to sweep out the manure.
 
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From http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/frict.html
 
Is your manure in a slury or a semi-solid/solid form? Beef and dairy cow excretment are somewhat different from each other and this deprends upon the diet. Bedding material such as sand, wood chippings, or straw can be added to make the manure less fluid.

http://osufacts.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-7612/BAE-1751.pdf
Figure 3 of this document shows which equipment is normally used to handle manure based upon moisture content.

http://www.engr.usask.ca/societies/csae/PapersAIC2002/CSAE02-214.pdf
Although not necessarily totally complete, this document gives some more information.
Static friction values on several surfaces from table 1 seems to be higher than what you quoted. See figures 7,8,9 and 10 for graphs of values using a regression technique from the data points.

Table 13 gives the shear stress failure as a function of normal stress, which would be the values to use if you are not scrapping or pushing on the surface, but above.

The heading 1, Review of Literature gives an indication that manure has variable properties, and can exhibit non-Newtonian pseudoplastic behavior.
 
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jmex said:
so can suggest how to sweep out the manure.
What surface are you trying to clear?
What will you do with the product that can't be pushed uphill?

The optimum method will depend on the availability of water or straw. Consider washing it out to a separation system, then recycling the washdown water. You could spread something like straw or sawdust first. Then move it all to a fermentation tank to produce methane for power generation, or spread it on pasture or barren ground to improve soil conditions. Consider using dung rolling beetles to bury dung in the soil. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_beetle
 
thanks it's worth reading. but I am confused related to TS(total solid concentration). can you explain what it is?
@256bits
 
Bull manure is easier to push than cow manure.
 
jmex said:
thanks it's worth reading. but I am confused related to TS(total solid concentration). can you explain what it is?
@256bits

Organic matter contains percentages of water, volatiles, and solid matter.
Remove the water and volatiles and what is left is the solid material.

Depending on the ratio of water to solid, since that is the major ratio in consideration, manure can be handled by a pump as a slurry, or by mechanical Earth moving equipment, or by manual labour.

If the semi-solid manure has the correct consistency, it can also be manipulated manually by a shovel or pitchfork. With a shovel, it either has to be more fluid or more solid so that the manure does not stick to the shovel. With a pitchfork, another consistency is desired so that the manure does not fall through the tangs - in this case not too fluid and not too solid ( one can pick up a dried cow patty that has dried out and has kept its shape intact, but not if it has disintegrated)

500 kg of cow pie stuff is about 2 cubic meters volume. If that is all you have then you can load it onto a sled, a wheel barrow, or utility trailer box and transfer to another location, depending upon how far. Time frame you would be looking at something like several hours for the process and a good workout. If that is the amount of accumulation per day, then you would probably look at other labour saving methods.
 
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Chronos said:
Bull manure is easier to push than cow manure.

Hardy har har :smile:
 

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