How to Calculate the force to push a wheelchair up a ramp?

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The discussion centers around calculating the required push force to move a wheelchair up a ramp with a 5-degree incline, considering factors such as the weight of the wheelchair and occupant, the rolling coefficient of friction, and the mechanics of forces acting on the wheelchair. The scope includes theoretical calculations and practical considerations related to physics and engineering.

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  • One participant asks how to calculate the required push force for a wheelchair on a ramp, providing specific parameters such as incline angle and weight.
  • Several participants suggest identifying the forces that need to be overcome, including normal force and frictional force.
  • Another participant argues that friction does not contribute to a retarding force unless the brakes are engaged, emphasizing the importance of the weight component parallel to the ramp and rolling resistance.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the rolling coefficient of friction and whether it represents rolling resistance, with some participants expressing uncertainty about its implications.
  • One participant proposes an initial estimate of the force required, assuming negligible rolling resistance and a constant velocity, providing a calculation based on the weight component along the incline.
  • Another participant mentions the potential confusion between force and velocity in the problem statement, suggesting that the assumption of constant velocity simplifies the analysis.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of friction and rolling resistance in the context of the problem. There is no consensus on the best approach to calculate the required push force, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem conflates 'force' and 'velocity', which may complicate the calculations. Additionally, the assumptions made about rolling resistance and the nature of the push force (constant versus variable) are not universally agreed upon.

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How do I calculate the required push force (in kgf) for pushing a wheelchair up a ramp?
- the ramp has a 5 degree incline
- the weight of the chair and person in it totals 96.8 kg
- the wheelchair has 4 wheels, all of equal diameter (15 cm)
- the wheels on the wheelchair have a rolling coefficient of friction with the floor of 0.1

I am really stuck on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you
How do I calculate the required push force (in kgf) for pushing a wheelchair up a ramp?
- the ramp has a 5 degree incline
- the weight of the chair and person in it totals 96.8 kg
- the wheelchair has 4 wheels, all of equal diameter (15 cm)
- the wheels on the wheelchair have a rolling coefficient of friction with the floor of 0.1

I am really stuck on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you
 
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We will try to work you through this.

Can you tell me what two forces need to be overcome before the wheel chair will begin moving up the ramp?
 
TommyH said:
I am really stuck on this.
Have you tried googling "forces on an incline"?
 
.Scott said:
We will try to work you through this.

Can you tell me what two forces need to be overcome before the wheel chair will begin moving up the ramp?
Normal force and frictional force?
 
The frictional force requires knowing the normal force - the force normal (perpendicular) to the surface of the ramp.

How do you calculate that normal force?

The first force I was considering was the frictional force. But there is a second force that is very important. It's the one that you will need to compute the normal force.

Also, by all means, take @A.T. 's advice and Google "forces on an incline". You will get to pick one of many sketches of the problem.
 
TommyH said:
Normal force and frictional force?
I don't think either of those is relevant. Friction between the wheels and the ramp doesn't contribute to a retarding force (unless the wheelchair's brakes are on, which would make no sense). The component of the weight of the wheelchair in the direction parallel to the ramp is one force, and the "rolling resistance" of the wheels is the other force that you need to overcome. The rolling resistance consists of the bearing friction for the wheels and any deformation of the wheels at the contact patches. Are the wheels pneumatic or solid rubber?

Are you familiar with trigonometry and algebra? We can show you how to calculate the force to overcome the component of the weight that is parallel to the ramp...

Also, will the pushing be done by a helper behind the wheelchair (hence a fairly continuous force at a constant speed), or by the person sitting in the wheelchair (so it will be in spurts)?
 
berkeman said:
Friction between the wheels and the ramp don't contribute to a retarding force.
The problem describes a "rolling coefficient of friction" with the floor.
So friction is (half of) a good answer.
Also, it is a unit-less value.
 
.Scott said:
The problem describes a "rolling coefficient of friction" with the floor.
So friction is (half of) a good answer.
Also, there are no units for that coefficient.
Is that meant to represent rolling resistance? The number did seem low for a coefficient of static friction...
 
berkeman said:
Is that meant to represent rolling resistance? The number did seem low for a coefficient of static friction...
That's how I took it.
 
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TommyH said:
Summary: How do I calculate the required push force (in kgf) for pushing a wheelchair up a ramp?
- the ramp has a 5 degree incline
- the weight of the chair and person in it totals 96.8 kg
- the wheelchair has 4 wheels, all of equal diameter (15 cm)
- the wheels on the wheelchair have a rolling coefficient of friction with the floor of 0.1

I am really stuck on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you

Perhaps one reason you are stuck is that the problem conflates 'force' and 'velocity'. That is, since a resultant *acceleration* of the wheelchair is not provided, you are most likely assuming the wheelchair moves at a constant velocity. So, if the wheelchair moves at constant velocity, you can use a reduced form of Newton's second law (or two N2s in combination: one for linear motion and the other for rotational motion, connected by the assumption of rolling motion) to figure out what the applied force must be.
 
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Well, let's give the OP an initial ballpark estimate of the force. Hopefully that helps some.

All of the wheelchairs I've pushed in healthcare settings have solid rubber wheels, and very little rolling resistance. A 5 degree incline is pretty gentle, but let's assume that the rolling resistance is a negligible retarding force. Let's also assume that a helper is pushing the wheelchair at a constant velocity. Then the force required is just the component of the weight in the direction parallel to the incline:

F = m * g * sin(5 degrees) = 96.8kg * 9.8 \frac{m}{s^2} * sin(5 degrees) = 82.7N

82N is about 20 pounds of force. Does that help?

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Catherine_Holloway/publication/267995686/figure/fig4/AS:669371231920138@1536601946564/5-Forces-acting-on-a-wheelchair-going-up-left-and-down-a-slope-W-is-the-weight-of.png

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BTW, slightly off topic -- If there is an Abilities Expo near you, try to stop by and check it out. I worked a recent one locally on EMS standby, and I was very impressed by the wonderful uses of technology to help folks with disabilities. I won't tell you which exhibit brought me to tears, but there are plenty of great examples of human creativity to help overcome the challenges of disabilities.

https://www.abilities.com/expos/
:smile:
 
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