Calculating Rate of Heat Loss for Metal at 800K

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the rate of heat loss for a metal ball at different temperatures, specifically comparing the heat loss at 900 K and 800 K. The context includes the use of the Boltzmann Law and emissivity in the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to convert units from J/min to J/seconds and question the correctness of the equations used for calculating heat loss. There is also exploration of whether the rate of heat loss should consider the temperature difference between the ball and its environment.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversion and questioned the formulation of the heat loss equation. Multiple interpretations of the correct approach are being explored, particularly regarding the role of temperature differences in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on using SI units for calculations, and participants are grappling with the implications of temperature differences on the rate of heat loss. The original poster's calculations have not yielded consistent results, prompting further inquiry into the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement


A metal (doesn't say what metal) is in a heater that is set to 700 K.
If the temperature of the ball is 900 K then the rate of heat loss = 0.10 J/min.
What is the rate of heat loss when the ball's temperature = 800 K.
The ball's emissivity doesn't change appreciably with temperature.


Homework Equations


Q = emissivity * Boltzmann Law * Temperature (to the 4th power in K) * Area * time


The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for A using the given information then plugged it into the equation above to solve for Q/t using 800 K instead of the 900 K. My answer doesn't check out. Am I suppose to convert 0.10 J/min into J/seconds? If so, how?
 
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Hi Cheddar! :smile:
Cheddar said:
… If the temperature of the ball is 900 K then the rate of heat loss = 0.10 J/min.

My answer doesn't check out. Am I suppose to convert 0.10 J/min into J/seconds? If so, how?

Yes, all your measurements must be in SI units (kg, second, joule, etc).

Calculations can go horribly wrong if you don't do that!

To convert J/min into J/second, just do it the same way you'd convert feet/min into feet/second. :wink:
 
Thank you. I did that and the answer still doesn't match up though.
I get an area of 4.48018196 * 10(-8 power). Plugging this into:
Q/t = emissivity * Boltzmann's * Temperature(4th power) * Area
leaves me with 0.0010404918, which doesn't check out.
 
Cheddar said:

Homework Equations


Q = emissivity * Boltzmann Law * Temperature (to the 4th power in K) * Area * time

This equation isn't quite right. Question: what would the rate of heat loss be if the ball were at the same temperature as the heater in which it is located?
 
So, instead of T(4th power) it should maybe be the difference between the ball's temp and the environments temp(to the 4th power)??
 
Close. It would be (Tball4 - Tenvir4)
 
I think I have it.
0.40 J/min
 
The heat loss rate should be less at a lower temperature.
 

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