Calculating Ratio of Time Above ymax/2 to Time from Floor to ymax

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The discussion focuses on calculating the ratio of time an athlete spends above half of their maximum jump height (y_max/2) to the time taken to reach that height from the floor. Participants clarify the equations of motion involved, emphasizing the need to distinguish between different time variables for clarity. The correct setup of the coordinate system and the use of appropriate symbols for time are highlighted as crucial for solving the problem. The conversation suggests forming a quadratic equation to relate the times and solve for the desired ratio. Ultimately, the goal is to express the relationship in terms of the jump's maximum height and the athlete's initial velocity.
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Homework Statement


In the vertical jump, an athlete starts from a crouch and jumps upward to reach as high as possible. Even the best athletes spend little more than 1.00 s in the air (their "hang time"). Treat the athlete as a particle and let y_max be his maximum height above the floor.

To explain why he seems to hang in the air, calculate the ratio of the time he is above y_ max/2 to the tme it takes him to go from the floor to that height. You may ignore air resistance.


Homework Equations



y=yo+vo*t+1/2a*t^(2)

The Attempt at a Solution



From floor to ymax

ymax=-g/2*t^(2)

From ymax/2 to ymax

ymax/2 = vo*t - 1/2*g*t^(2)

Not sure what to do after here.
 
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Toranc3 said:

Homework Statement


In the vertical jump, an athlete starts from a crouch and jumps upward to reach as high as possible. Even the best athletes spend little more than 1.00 s in the air (their "hang time"). Treat the athlete as a particle and let y_max be his maximum height above the floor.

To explain why he seems to hang in the air, calculate the ratio of the time he is above y_ max/2 to the tme it takes him to go from the floor to that height. You may ignore air resistance.


Homework Equations



y=yo+vo*t+1/2a*t^(2)

The Attempt at a Solution



From floor to ymax

ymax=-g/2*t^(2)
You mean ymax= (g/2)t^2. You don't say how you are setting up your coordianate system, but assuming positive is "up", ymax is positive.

From ymax/2 to ymax

ymax/2 = vo*t - 1/2*g*t^(2)
Please don't use "t" for both times! t in your first equation is the time necessary to get to the highest point. Let's use "s" to mean the time to the half that. Now you have, of course, ymax/2= (g/2)t^2= v_os- (1/2)gs^2. That is a quadratic, (g/2)t^2- v_os+ (g/2)s^2. Solve that for quadratic for s in terms of t, and form the ratio.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not sure what to do after here. </div> </div> </blockquote>
 
As you have two different times, I would use t and t' to separate them. In addition, try to express vo as function of t or ymax.
You can then use your equations to find an equation with t and t' and no other variables.
 
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