Calculating Rotational Kinetic Energy: A Merry Go Round Example

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The problem involves calculating the rotational kinetic energy of a merry-go-round, modeled as a solid cylinder, after being subjected to a constant tangential force. The scenario includes parameters such as weight, radius, and time, with a focus on understanding the relationships between torque, angular acceleration, and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of torque to find angular acceleration and the application of kinematic equations. There are questions about the correct moment of inertia and the conversion between angular and linear quantities.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance on the approach to take, while others have shared their attempts and calculations. There is an acknowledgment of a mistake in the force used for torque calculation, which has led to discrepancies in the results.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying physics rather than simply arriving at a numerical answer.

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Homework Statement


A horizontal 800N merry go round of radius 1.50m is started from rest by a constant horizontal force of 50.0N applied tangetially to the merry go round. Find the kinetic energy of the merry go round after 3.00s. (assume it is a solid cylinder).


Homework Equations


I = MR^2

KE (rotational) = I (omega)^2



The Attempt at a Solution


I know this is a straight forward question. I don't know where to start. I know there are a few unknowns: omega, angular acceleration, velocity.

can someone guide me please? thanks
 
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Hint: Use the torque to find the angular acceleration. Then use some kinematics. (That's just one way to go.)
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: Use the torque to find the angular acceleration. Then use some kinematics. (That's just one way to go.)

K. thanks. Here's what I did:

I found moment of inertia (I = mr^2). For m, i found that using the given weight, 800N.

I used the torque equation to find angular acceleration. (torque = I * angular acceleration) Where torque is equal to the Force * r. Once i got the angular acceleration, i solved for tangential acceleration (a = r * angular acceleration).

Then I found v using the equation, v = a*t.

Once I got v, i found angular velocity from the equation, v = r * omega.

THen finally I can solve for Kinetic energy! KE = 1/2 * I (omega)^2

my answer came up to 2.76 x 10^4J, but in the book it's 276J! :cry:
 
mizzy said:
K. thanks. Here's what I did:

I found moment of inertia (I = mr^2). For m, i found that using the given weight, 800N.
That should be: I = 1/2 mr^2.

I used the torque equation to find angular acceleration. (torque = I * angular acceleration) Where torque is equal to the Force * r. Once i got the angular acceleration, i solved for tangential acceleration (a = r * angular acceleration).

Then I found v using the equation, v = a*t.

Once I got v, i found angular velocity from the equation, v = r * omega.
That's OK, but there's no need to convert from angular quantities to linear then back to angular! The kinematic formulas work just fine for angular quantities:
Use ω = alpha*t instead of v = a*t.

(The fewer 'conversions' the fewer chances for arithmetic errors.)

THen finally I can solve for Kinetic energy! KE = 1/2 * I (omega)^2

my answer came up to 2.76 x 10^4J, but in the book it's 276J!
Give it one more shot.
 
k. I got the answer
 
ooops...i accidentally clicked on post reply.

In calculating the angular acceleration, i wrote down the wrong Force creating the torque. Instead of 50.0N, I used 500N! silly mistake!

Thanks Doc Al =D
 

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