Calculating Scattered Photon Energy and Recoil Angle in Compton Effect

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The discussion revolves around a problem in the context of the Compton effect, specifically calculating the energy of a scattered photon, the kinetic energy of a recoiling electron, and the recoil angle of the electron after a gamma ray interacts with it.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to clarify the nature of the scattering event and considers the implications of momentum conservation for determining the recoil angle. They explore the relationship between photon energy and wavelength to find the scattered photon energy.
  • Some participants question the interpretation of the scattering process and suggest re-evaluating the approach to finding the recoil angle, indicating a need to consider momentum conservation.
  • Others suggest that the original poster's plan to use the Compton effect equation is valid, but they note that frequency may not be necessary for the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the use of momentum conservation and clarifying the relationship between energy and wavelength. There is a recognition of the need to rethink certain assumptions, particularly regarding the recoil angle and the interpretation of the scattering process.

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Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the initial conditions of the problem and the definitions of the variables involved. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in the application of physical principles such as conservation of momentum and energy.

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Homework Statement


A 650-keV gamma ray Compton-scatters from an electron. Find the energy of the photon scattered at 110°, the kinetic energy of the scattered electron, and the recoil angle of the electron.

Homework Equations


Compton effect equation:
Δλ = λ^{'} - λ = (h/mc) (1-cosθ)

Conservation of Energy:
hf + mc^{2} = hf^{'} + E_{e}

hf is initial photon energy, mc^{2} is electron energy before scattering, hf^{'} is the energy of scattered photon with new frequency f prime, and E_{e} is the energy of the recoil electron with mc^2 and Kinetic Energy.

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all I am confused about the question. Are they saying a gamma ray is scattered? Or does a gamma ray hit the electron producing a scattering photon and the electron recoils?

For now, I am thinking that the gamma ray hits the electron (the latter mentioned).

For the recoil angle, I am thinking that it should be 80° since momentum is conserved and so the electron goes in the opposite direction, so 80°.

To find the energy of scattered photon I need to find the new frequency. My thought is that I need to find the new wavelength so that I can use f=c/λ. I can find the new wavelength using Compton Effect equation shown above. I know θ is 110°, and h,m,c are constants. But what about initial λ? Can I get that from the 650-keV? So E = 650-keV = hc/λ using h in terms of eV I can get λ. Right? Now I am all set to find the new wavelength.With that I can find the new frequency, and then find the scattering energy of the photon.

Now I should have all the information to find the Kinetic Energy using the Conservation of energy equation above.

Am I going the right way, any comments would be appreciated. Thanks! :)
 
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First of all I am confused about the question. Are they saying a gamma ray is scattered? Or does a gamma ray hit the electron producing a scattering photon and the electron recoils?
What's the difference? I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make.

For the recoil angle, I am thinking that it should be 80° since momentum is conserved and so the electron goes in the opposite direction, so 80°.
You'll have to rethink this.

To find the energy of scattered photon I need to find the new frequency. My thought is that I need to find the new wavelength so that I can use f=c/λ. I can find the new wavelength using Compton Effect equation shown above. I know θ is 110°, and h,m,c are constants. But what about initial λ? Can I get that from the 650-keV? So E = 650-keV = hc/λ using h in terms of eV I can get λ. Right? Now I am all set to find the new wavelength.With that I can find the new frequency, and then find the scattering energy of the photon.
Good plan. You don't need to find the frequency though. The equation you already mentioned,
##E = hc/\lambda##, allows you to relate energy to wavelength directly.
 
Forget about the first question then. What do you mean rethink this? Should I use the Kinetic Energy of the recoiled electron to determine the angle?

EDIT: Or should I use conservation of momentum?
 
You need to use momentum. Energy doesn't have a direction whereas momentum does.
 
Many thanks! I'll get to it then.
 

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