Calculating Shear Stress: Solving for μ = ρv in 8-41 Equation

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between viscosity (μ), density (ρ), and velocity (v) as presented in equation 8-41. Participants are attempting to understand how to manipulate these variables and their units in the context of fluid dynamics, particularly regarding the concept of kinematic viscosity and its implications in deriving related equations.

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  • Participants are questioning the units of viscosity and density, and how they relate to the equation μ = ρv. There is confusion regarding the distinction between velocity (v) and kinematic viscosity (ν). Some participants are exploring how to derive the formula for the viscous sublayer and are seeking clarification on the notation and definitions used in the equations.

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There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the relationships between the variables. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the derivation of related equations, while others express uncertainty about their attempts and seek further clarification on specific steps.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the homework assignment, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is also a mention of potential errors in mathematical cancellations that could affect the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


how to make μ = ρ v as in 8-41 ?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


since μ = viscocity , it has unit =( kgms^-2)s m^-2 , = kg(m^-1)(s^-1)
ρ v = (kgm^-3)(ms^-1 ) = kg(m^-2)(s^-1) , the unit for LHS and RHS are not the same , can someone help pls ?
 

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hotjohn said:

Homework Statement


how to make μ = ρ v as in 8-41 ?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


since μ = viscocity , it has unit =( kgms^-2)s m^-2 , = kg(m^-1)(s^-1)
ρ v = (kgm^-3)(ms^-1 ) = kg(m^-2)(s^-1) , the unit for LHS and RHS are not the same , can someone help pls ?
You've mixed up lower case v for velocity with the lower case Greek letter nu (##\nu##), which is used to represent the kinematic viscosity of a fluid.

The kinematic viscosity is defined ##\nu = \frac{\mu}{\rho}##

See this article for a discussion of the units:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscosity
 
SteamKing said:
You've mixed up lower case v for velocity with the lower case Greek letter nu (##\nu##), which is used to represent the kinematic viscosity of a fluid.

The kinematic viscosity is defined ##\nu = \frac{\mu}{\rho}##

See this article for a discussion of the units:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscosity
ok , can you pls explain how the author get the formula of viscous sublayer ? after substitute u= sqrt rt (τ / ρ ) into 8-41 , I have u = ( v / y ) sqrt rt (τ / ρ ) , hwo to get the same form as in 8-42 ?
 

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Note that ##\sqrt{\tau_w/\rho}## is defined to be a fictitious velocity ##u##- (called "friction velocity"). (I'm not sure I got the notation right. It looks like there is a subscript "-" on the ##u## for the fictitious velocity. But it is hard for me to read.) See discussion below equation 8-41.
##u##- is not the same as the actual velocity ##u##.
 
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TSny said:
Note that ##\sqrt{\tau_w/\rho}## is defined to be the "fictitious velocity" ##u##-. (I'm not sure I got the notation right. It looks like there is a subscript "-" on the ##u## for the fictitious velocity. But it is hard for me to read.) See discussion below equation 8-41.
##u##- is not the same as the actual velocity ##u##.
u / ##u##- , i haver u [ sqrt rt ( p / т ) ] , how to get the same form as in the 8-42 ?
 
Solve ##u##- = ##\sqrt{\tau/\rho}## for ##\tau##. Then sustitute this expression for ##\tau## into equation 8-41. You should then be able to rearrange it to get 8-42.
 
TSny said:
Solve ##u##- = ##\sqrt{\tau/\rho}## for ##\tau##. Then sustitute this expression for ##\tau## into equation 8-41. You should then be able to rearrange it to get 8-42.
hwo to do that ? I have tried , but didn't get the same form ,
 

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hotjohn said:
hwo to do that ? I have tried , but didn't get the same form ,
Some of your cancellations are wrong. ##\frac x{\sqrt x}## is not ##\frac 1{\sqrt x}##
 
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