Calculating Spring Compression of Ore Car on Downhill Mine Tracks

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The problem involves calculating the compression of a spring when an ore car rolls downhill and comes to a stop. The ore car has a mass of 38,000 kg and descends 6.5 m vertically before encountering a spring with a spring constant of 5.2 × 105 N/m. The discussion centers around applying the work-energy principle and the relationship between gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the work-energy principle, equating gravitational work done to the spring's potential energy. There are attempts to derive the spring compression using the formula W = 1/2 kx2 and questioning the correctness of calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about kinematic information needed for the problem.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of calculations and methods. One participant has shared their calculations, leading to a discussion about the correctness of the final answer and the importance of significant figures. While one participant initially thought their answer was incorrect, another confirmed that the un-rounded answer was indeed correct.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of significant figures as emphasized by the professor, which adds a layer of complexity to the problem-solving process. There is also mention of ignoring friction in the scenario.

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1.An ore car of mass 38000 kg starts from rest
and rolls downhill on tracks from a mine. At
the end of the tracks, 6.5 m lower vertically,
is a horizontally situated spring with constant
5.2 × 105 N/m.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 .
Ignore friction.
How much is the spring compressed in stop-
ping the ore car?




2. W=F*D W=1/2 kx2



3. Started with 1/2kx2 the constant is given to us. work is also F*D here once it leaves the hill I considered it in free fall. so using force of gravity as F.
(m)(g)(d)=1/2kx2 and solved for x. this was incorrect. thought about the work-energy principle but i don't know any kinematic inforation other than g and the vertical displacement. any thoughts
 
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The method looks good.

What do your calculations look like? What did you get for an answer?
 
Yeah there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it =\
 
here is what i got

W=1/2kx^2

mgd=1/2kx^2

(38000kg)(9.8m/s^2)(6.5m)=1/2(5.2e5)x^2
(2420600 kgm^2/s^2)=260000*x^2
9.31 = x^2
3.05 = x

using the correct sig figs would round to 3.1 and the answer was wrong
 
weird, just tried submitting 3.05 m and it was correct. that was the un-rounded raw answer before sig figs. My professor made it clear to use sig figs when doing the assignment. :anger:
 

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