Calculating Temperature Rise in a Concert Hall Due to Occupant Metabolism

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature rise in a concert hall due to the metabolic heat generated by an audience of 1800 people over a period of 2 hours. The problem involves concepts from thermodynamics and heat transfer, specifically focusing on the relationship between heat transfer, mass, and temperature change.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of the heat transfer equation Q = m*C*deltaT and question the adequacy of the given information, particularly regarding the volume of the concert hall and the specific heat of air.

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Several participants have provided calculations for the heat generated by the audience and discussed the mass of air in the concert hall. There is a recognition of missing information, and some participants are recalculating values based on assumptions about specific heat and density. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear consensus on the final temperature rise.

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Participants note that the specific heat of air was not provided in the original problem statement, and there is uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the values used in calculations. The volume of the hall was also initially omitted, leading to further exploration of assumptions related to the problem.

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An audience of 1800 fills a concert hall of volume. If there were no ventilation, by how much would the temperature of the air rise over a period of 2.0h due to the metabolism of the people (70 W/person)? Assume the room is initially at 293 K.

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Q = m*C*deltaT (?)
Convection equation (?)

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I'm pretty stumped on this question, I tried to use Q=m*C*deltaT (by calculating the mass of air the room) but I don't think that's the right way to do it. I'm pretty sure this is a convection problem but I can't apply the convection equation because there's some missing values.
 
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I think you are missing some information from the problem statement. You should be able to calculate the heat transferred to the air from the metabolism of the people as a first step.
 
Wouldnt that be (70 W)(1800 people)(2 hrs)(3600 secs)= 9.072*10^8 J?
 
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Wouldnt that be (70 W)(1800 people)(2 hrs)(3600 secs)= 9.072*10^8 J?
Yes, now you can find the change in temperature of the air using Q = cmΔT and the criterion in the question. Was the volume of the hall given in the problem statement? It seems the first sentence was cut off short.
 
Well if you have the volume, which you didn't write in the problem description, I see no problem in using Q=m*C*delta
 
Oops I left that out when copying the question over, it should be 2.2*10^4 m^3 (2.2*10^7 L).

So (2.2*10^7 L)/(22.4 mol/L) = 9.82*10^5 mol of air. Air has a molar mass of 28.97 g/mol so the total mass of the air in the room should be (9.82*10^5 mol)*(28.97 g/mol) = 2.85*10^7 g = 2.85*10^4 kg.

Q = m*c*deltaT (Using 1006 J/kg*K for the specific heat of air)

9.072*10^8 = (2.85*10^4)*(1006)*(deltaT)

deltaT = 32 K

This is not right though.
 
What is the right answer? All your working is correct. Alternatively, if you were given the volume of the hall, then knowing the density of air ≈ 1.2 kg m-3 gives you the mass of air in the room. The result is of the same order of magnitude, as expected, and the change in temperature deviates by 2K.

Did the values you use for the quantities given in the question or did you find them elsewhere?
 
The only value that wasn't given was the specific heat of air (1006 J/kg*K), which I found online. The problem is from an online homework, so I don't know what the actual answer is, I just know that what I found isn't right.
 
I found the problem in my textbook, and the answer is 48 C. I don't understand this answer, since I just did a recalculation with the correct values for specific heat and density of air at 293 K and still got the same answer as before.
 
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