Calculating Tension and Net Force in Suspended Cable System

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a suspended cable system, specifically calculating the tension in a wire supporting an awning and the net force from a wall acting on the awning. The scenario includes a 50.0 kg awning and a 15 kg sign, with a cable forming a 40-degree angle with the awning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the sum of torques and forces acting on the system, with attempts to derive the tension in the wire. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the net force from the wall, specifically whether it refers to the normal force or requires consideration of tension.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of force balance in the system. Some guidance has been provided regarding the components of forces acting on the awning, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the net force from the wall.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the definitions of forces and the conditions for equilibrium. There is uncertainty about the relationship between the tension in the wire and the forces exerted by the wall.

Ellen W.
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Homework Statement


A 50.0 kg 6.00m awning is held up by a wire in the middle. A 15kg sign hangs at the end. Calculate the tension in the massless wire and the magnitude of the net force from the wall acting on the awning.
The cable forms a 40 degree angle with the awning at the bottom right corner.

Homework Equations


Sum or Torque

The Attempt at a Solution


Sum of Torque=0=(mg)(L)+(Mg)(L/2)-(T)(L/2)Sin40)
L's cancel
(mg)+(Mg/2)=Tsin40/2
(mg)+(Mg)/sin40=T
((15*9.81)+(50*9.81)/sin40)=T
T=992N
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I'm not sure what the question means by net force from the wall. Is it just the normal force of the wall or do I have to use the tension to find it?
 
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Ellen W. said:
(mg)+(Mg/2)=Tsin40/2
(mg)+(Mg)/sin40=T
Careful with treating the 2's.
I'm not sure what the question means by net force from the wall. Is it just the normal force of the wall or do I have to use the tension to find it?
What can you say about the net force on the system?
 
The net force would have to be zero. Does this mean that they are equal?
 
It means ∑Fx = 0 and ∑Fy = 0. The wall exerts a force on the awning that could have both and x and y components.
 

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