Calculating Tension in a Revolving Sphere: Solving for T1 and T2

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The problem involves calculating the tension in two wires attached to a sphere that revolves in a horizontal circle at a constant speed. The sphere's mass is given as 400 g, and its speed is 8.30 m/s. Participants are attempting to determine the tensions in the upper and lower wires, denoted as T1 and T2, respectively.

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  • Participants are discussing the forces acting on the sphere, including tension and gravitational force, and how these relate to centripetal force. Some are attempting to derive equations based on free body diagrams, while others are questioning the differences in tension between the two wires.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces and tensions. Some participants have made progress in calculating T2 but express uncertainty about how to find T1. Questions about the angle used in calculations and the direction of centripetal acceleration are also being raised, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify concepts.

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Participants are working with specific angles derived from trigonometric functions, and there is some confusion regarding the correct application of these angles in their equations. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations regarding the setup of the problem.

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Two wires are tied to the 400 g sphere shown in figure. The sphere revolves in a horizontal circle at a constant speed of 8.30 m/s

1) What is the tension in the upper wire?
2) What is the tension in the lower wire?

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okay i know that m=.4 and v=8.3
i don't know r, which i thought that maybe i could find by doing the square root (1^2-.5^2) =.866
and then Force= m V^2 / R sooo.. (.4)(8.3^2)/(.866) = 31.819 . but i don't know where to go from there?
 
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okay i also think..
Fnetx= -T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = mv^2/ r
Fnety= Tsin 26 + -T2 sin 26 -Fg= mv^2/ r
 
so my free body diagram looks like 1 wire pulling in the 2nd quad, one in the 3 quad, and Fg going straight down on the y axis
 
yep. No motion in y-dir., so forces sum up to zero. In X- dir. they will contribute to centripetal force.
 
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but i don't understand how the tension in the 2 wires are going to be different
 
Fnety= Tsin 26 + -T2 sin 26 -Fg= 0
T1 sin 26 - T2 sin 26 = Fg
T1 sin 26 - T2 sin 26 = 3.92

Fnetx= -T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = mv^2/ r
-T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = 31.82
 
^ i am not sure how to solve for T1 or T2 . can you please help me with that
 
please can someone help me!
 
i figured out the T2, but now i can't figure out T1. shouldn't it just be plug T2 into one of the equations and it should give you T1??
 
  • #10
klm said:
Fnety= Tsin 26 + -T2 sin 26 -Fg= 0
T1 sin 26 - T2 sin 26 = Fg
T1 sin 26 - T2 sin 26 = 3.92
Where does the 26 degrees come from?

Fnetx= -T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = mv^2/ r
-T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = 31.82
Which way does the centripetal acceleration act?

Once you correct your equations, isolate the T1 term in each, like this:

T_1 \sin\theta = mg + T_2 \sin\theta
 
  • #11
26 came from inverse tan (.5/1)
 
  • #12
does centripetal acc act on the Horizontal force?
 
  • #13
klm said:
26 came from inverse tan (.5/1)
But the 1 m side is the hypotenuse. That should be inverse sin (.5/1).
 
  • #14
klm said:
does centripetal acc act on the Horizontal force?
My question is: What's the direction of the centripetal acceleration?
 
  • #15
umm this may be wrong, but i thought centripetal acc just means that the direction is toward the center
 
  • #16
ohh wait i know what i did. it is just the angle that is messing me up! thank you for pointing that out. i don't know why, but the angle i used still let me get the tension of the first string??!
 
  • #17
klm said:
umm this may be wrong, but i thought centripetal acc just means that the direction is toward the center
That's exactly right. So, what direction is that? Should it be positive or negative?
 
  • #18
negative
 
  • #19
would that be right?
 
  • #20
klm said:
negative
Good. So fix your equation for horizontal forces.
 
  • #21
Fnetx= -T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = - mv^2/ r
 
  • #22
klm said:
Fnetx= -T1 cos 26 + -T2 cos 26 = - mv^2/ r
Good. Now combine with the other equation and solve.
 

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