Calculating the Angular velocity and momentum of a rotating cuboid

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The problem involves calculating the angular velocity and momentum of a rotating cuboid, specifically a concrete block with given dimensions and mass. The block rotates about an axis through two opposite corners and its center of mass, with a constant angular speed. The task includes determining the direction of the angular momentum and discussing the necessity of external torque to maintain this motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate angular momentum for each principal axis using the moment of inertia formula and expresses uncertainty about combining these components. Some participants question the calculations and seek clarification on the results.

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Participants are actively discussing the calculations of angular momentum and the underlying principles. There is a recognition of potential discrepancies in the results, and some guidance has been offered regarding the vector nature of angular momentum and the relationship between angular momentum and angular velocity.

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There is an indication that this is the original poster's first post in the forum, and they are in their second year of an undergraduate course. The discussion may be influenced by the participants' varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



A concrete block is a uniformly dense cuboid of dimensions 40 x
20 x 10 cm, with mass M. It is constrained to rotate about an axis passing
through two opposite corners and its centre of mass, with constant angular
speed ω.

Calculate the direction of the angular momentum of the block.
Explain why an external torque must be exerted to sustain motion around
this axis. Hint: you will need to find the angular momentum component
along each principal axis.

Homework Equations



Moment of inertia perp. to block face = I = 1/12 m(a^2+b^2)
where a and b are the lengths of the sides of the face.

L = Iω

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand that in order to find the angular momentum, I should first find the angular velocity for each principal axis, and then using the above formulas find the angular momentum for each axis, then use these components to find the total angular momentum.

I have calculated the angular momentum for each principal axis as:

L = 10000/3 mω - 10 by 20 face
L = 40000/3 mω - 10 by 40 face
L = 160000/3 mω - 20 by 40 face

I am unsure how to combine these components to find the total angular momentum, though I imagine it is through the use of cos(theta) and cos(phi).

Note: This is my first post, and I am unsure if this is the correct place to post it. I am in my second year of an undergraduate course, so this seemed appropriate.
 
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Hello tomphys. Welcome to PF!

Would you mind showing how you got the following results? I get something different. Maybe I'm overlooking something.

tomphys said:
I have calculated the angular momentum for each principal axis as:

L = 10000/3 mω - 10 by 20 face
L = 40000/3 mω - 10 by 40 face
L = 160000/3 mω - 20 by 40 face
 
Using the formula shown above: I = 1/12 m(a^2+b^2)
where a and b are 10, 20, 40 for the various faces. Then L= Iω.
I have double checked them and am fairly certain they are numerically correct, but I may be making a method error.
 
Let x, y, z axes correspond to the principle axes. To find the x-component of angular momentum, you should use Lx = Ixωx. So, you need to find the x-component of the angular velocity vector.
 
Notice that in general you have L = Iω as a vector equation (L and ω are vectors, I is a matrix), meaning that the direction of L may not coincide with the direction of ω.

Also, when the involved values are given with coordinates relative to the body (so that the elements of I can be considered constant), the elements of both L and ω represent the instantaneous values relative to the body, not with respect to inertial space. Since ω for this problem also has constant element in body coordinates ("fixed rotation axis"), it means that L must also be constant in body coordinates, or equivalently, that L over time will move in a small circle around the ω-axis (that is, to the extend that L are not aligned with ω). Now you only need yet another equation (namely the rotational version of Newtons second law) in order to model and calculate the required torque.
 

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