Calculating the Area of a Plane in the First Octant

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The discussion focuses on calculating the area of a plane in the first octant defined by the equation ax + by + cz = d, where a, b, c, and d are positive real numbers. The area formula is given as [d²√(a²+b²+c²)] / 2abc. Participants explore methods to find the area, including using the cross product to determine the area of a triangle formed by intercepts on the axes. One user initially struggles with a complicated solution but ultimately resolves their issue, indicating the importance of careful calculations. The conversation highlights the challenge of applying geometric concepts to derive the area of a plane in three-dimensional space.
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Homework Statement


consider the area of a plane in first octant where a,b,c,d are positive real numbers
show that the area is [d2 sqrt(a2+b2+c2)] / 2abc

Homework Equations


ax+by+cz = d

The Attempt at a Solution



ok i tried to search for formulas for areas of planes but there seem to be none !
i found one at paula's calculus notes that is about using surface integrals but it seems not for this problem?

can anyone point me to the right direction? thanks!
 
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quietrain said:

Homework Statement


consider the area of a plane in first octant where a,b,c,d are positive real numbers
show that the area is [d2 sqrt(a2+b2+c2)] / 2abc

Homework Equations


ax+by+cz = d

The Attempt at a Solution



ok i tried to search for formulas for areas of planes but there seem to be none !
i found one at paula's calculus notes that is about using surface integrals but it seems not for this problem?

can anyone point me to the right direction? thanks!

Hey there.

I'm going to assume that the area is finite.

Since planes are linear objects you can break them up into simple shapes and then add up the areas.

First you need to find the boundary of the shape. Have you got any ideas how to do that?

(Hint think of the axis that bound the plane!)
 
i realize that it is a triangle?

can i use the cross product to get area of parallelogram and then half it to get the triangle area?

i got 3 coordinates for the 3 places of intercept

namely
0,0,c -------- for x=0, y=0, z=c
0,d/b,0
d/a,0,0

i calculated out but somehow i get a very complicated solution. and i can't get it to fit into the elegant form in the first post ><

i even use half base x height by using projection to get height and then using base, but the expression is horrible too...

anywhere i did wrong?
 
oH i solved it... it was a careless mistake ><... thanks!
 
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