Calculating the loads at different points on a base frame

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The discussion revolves around calculating the loads at different points on a base frame supporting a large fan weighing 6,060 kg. Participants explore methods for determining the vertical reaction forces at each support point, considering both rigid-body mechanics and the structural properties of the frame.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in calculating the loads at each point on the frame supporting a fan.
  • Another participant assumes the fan contacts all eight points and inquires about the uniformity of the frame's cross-section and the axis of rotation of the fan.
  • A participant provides calculated vertical reaction forces at each support point under the assumption of rigid-body mechanics, presenting two sets of values due to a correction made in a later post.
  • There is a request for the calculation methods used to derive the reaction forces, with an emphasis on maintaining the rigid-body assumption.
  • Another participant confirms that all frame members have the same cross-sectional dimensions, which are specified as 200h x 90w.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for calculations under rigid-body mechanics, but there is no consensus on the method or the implications of the frame's structural properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact calculation methods and their complexities.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider cross-sectional dimensions for a more complex analysis, indicating that assumptions about rigidity may limit the accuracy of the calculations.

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The attachment provided shows a frame in which a large fan is to be rested on. The fan has a weight of 6,060 kg and the location of the centre of gravity is shown in the attachment. I would like to know how to calculate the loads at each point. Could anyone please provide some help on this problem?
 

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I assume that the fan contacts all 8 points shown on the frame.

Do all the members of the frame have the same cross section, i.e., does the frame use the same structural shapes for all members?

What is the axis of rotation of the fan? Are you concerned about any change in fan reactions for the static condition versus when the fan is operating?
 
Peirianeg: Assuming the frame is relatively very stiff (rigid-body mechanics), and using g = 9.81 m/s^2, then the vertical reaction force (Rz) at each support point would be as follows.

Code:
Point   Rz

  1    7504 N
  2    7634
  3    7731
  4    7279
  5    7409
  6    7506
  7    7171
  8    7214

If you do not want a rigid-body mechanics solution, then you would need to incorporate the cross-sectional dimensions of the frame members, in which case the problem would become more difficult.
 
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Many thanks nvn, I was wondering if you could possibly show your calculation methods if that's okay. And it would be considered as a rigid-body.
 
Peirianeg: I made a mistake in post 3, which is now corrected, below.

Assuming the frame is relatively very stiff (rigid-body mechanics), and using g = 9.81 m/s^2, then the vertical reaction force (Rz) at each support point would be as follows.

Code:
Point   Rz

  1    7436 N
  2    7685
  3    7869
  4    7150
  5    7399
  6    7583
  7    7122
  8    7205

If you do not want a rigid-body mechanics solution, then you would need to incorporate the cross-sectional dimensions of the frame members, in which case the problem would become more difficult.
 
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Thanks for the update, would it be okay if you could show how you calculated the load at each point please? All members have the same cross-sectional dimensions which are 200h x 90w.
 

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