Calculating the mass per unit length of a string based on the graph of f vs. 1/L

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The problem involves determining the mass per unit length of a vibrating string based on experimental data. The original poster describes a setup where the frequency of the string is varied, and the corresponding lengths for standing waves are recorded, leading to a graph of frequency versus 1/L. The relationship between frequency, tension, and mass per unit length is central to the discussion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the slope of the graph and the mass per unit length, with one participant attempting to equate the slope to a derived formula. Others question the clarity of the problem statement and the implications of the graph setup, particularly regarding the independent variable.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the mathematical relationships involved and suggesting a need for clarification on the experimental setup. There is no explicit consensus yet, as questions about the interpretation of the graph and the meaning of the intercept remain open.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the wording of the problem and the physical meaning of certain parameters, such as the tension expressed in non-standard units. Participants are also exploring the implications of the graph's intercept and its relevance to the experimental results.

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Homework Statement



The frequency of a vibrating string is set to 15, 20, 25, 30, or 35 Hz and the length needed to attain a standing wave (mode 1) is recorded. A graph of frequency versus 1/L is recorded. Calculate the mass per unit length of the string.

The resulting graph has the equation y=9.15x + 1.03

Homework Equations



f= m/2L x (sqrt(T/mu))

m=1
T=tension= 1470 g m/s2
L=1m


The Attempt at a Solution



I assumed it had something to do with the slope, which would be equal to 1/2L x sqrt(T/mu). That doesn't make solving for mu any easier though, so what's the point? If I set 9.15 equal to this, mu comes out to be 1.09 g/m, is this right? Gah, I'm so confused!
 
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buttermellow said:

Homework Statement



The frequency of a vibrating string is set to 15, 20, 25, 30, or 35 Hz and the length needed to attain a standing wave (mode 1) is recorded. A graph of frequency versus 1/L is recorded. Calculate the mass per unit length of the string.
Are you sure you quoted the question correctly? What does "A graph of frequency versus 1/L is recorded" mean when L = 1 m = constant? What is your independent variable?
 
The question is from a lab, and yes, it was worded poorly.

The frequency was set and the length changed until a standing wave at the first mode was attained. After doing that for each frequency, a graph of frequency vs. 1/L was constructed (not recorded, as I said earlier). From this graph (and I assume related equations) we are supposed to find the mass per unit length of the string.
 
For the first harmonic (fundamental) λ = 2L so that v = f(2L) = sqrt(T/μ) which gives

f = (1/2L)sqrt(T/μ) (there is no extra m multiplying the square root).

Let f = y and x = (1/L). Then

y = (1/2)sqrt(T/μ)*x

This says that if you plot y (a.k.a. f) vs. x (a.k.a. 1/L) you should get a straight line that passes through zero and has a slope equal to (1/2)sqrt(T/μ). So if you know the slope, you can find the linear mass density from

slope = (1/2)sqrt(T/μ)

Try fitting a straight line by constraining the intercept to be zero. If it doesn't work, then you will have to explain what the intercept means physically in terms of what you did in the lab.

Finally, I am not sure what you mean by "T=tension= 1470 g m/s2". To get a result that makes sense, you need to express the tension in Newtons.
 

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