HELP Mass per unit length equation

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The discussion revolves around the equation for wave speed in a medium, specifically focusing on the mass per unit length (μ) in the context of a system involving tension and a mass suspended over a pulley. The original poster seeks to manipulate the equation to express μ as a gradient for graphing purposes.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore different methods to rearrange the equation f² = mg / (4l²μ) to isolate μ. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of "as the gradient" and how to effectively plot the variables involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the equation and its components. Some participants suggest starting with a different form of the equation to eliminate the square root, while others question the best way to represent μ in a graph. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of plotting the variables correctly and the potential confusion regarding the term "gradient." There is also a sense of urgency expressed by the original poster regarding the response time in the forum.

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Ok so using the standard equation v = Sqrt(T/Mu)

I want to find Mu as a gradient for the first fundamental.

I've made it into F x lambda = sqrt(T/Mu)

Then f x 2l = sqrt(T/Mu)

Then f= sqrt(T/4l^2 Mu)

As I'm having the tension held by a mass suspended over a pulley.

f= sqrt(mg/4l^2 Mu)

Note: Mu is used to represent mass per unit length.

T is TENSIONMY QUESTION IS:

How do I convert f^2= mg / (4l^2 Mu) into a form where I can get Mu as the gradient?

Thanks.
 
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Does it usually take this long to get a reply? I thought this forum was active.
If someone can PLEASE help it would really be appreciated.
Thanks.
 
I have concluded that this forum is dead.
 
mac b said:
How do I convert f^2= mg / (4l^2 Mu) into a form where I can get Mu as the gradient?
If you had an equation A = B/(Cx), could you solve for x? Same thing.

(μ is the mass/length. Not sure what you mean when you say you want it 'as the gradient'.)
 
Doc Al said:
If you had an equation A = B/(Cx), could you solve for x? Same thing.

(μ is the mass/length. Not sure what you mean when you say you want it 'as the gradient'.)

I want to make a graph with mass per unit length as a gradient, how do I manipulate that equation to do so?
 
First of all there are several approaches to do this.
I would start by arranging the expression to have no square root.
If you start with v^2 =T/m (m = mass per unit length) can you arrange this to be
f^2 = T/(m4L^2)
There are only 2 experimental variables in your case I think...f and L
Do you knopw what to plot here that would have m as a part of the gradient? It can be tricky depending on your experience with graph plotting and equations of lines !
 

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