Sound & Music - Mass per unit length

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass per unit length of a harp string tuned to middle C, given its length and tension. Participants are exploring the relationship between wave speed, tension, and mass per unit length in the context of musical acoustics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the wave speed formula and rearranging it to solve for mass per unit length. Questions arise regarding the correct manipulation of the equations and the interpretation of results.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different mathematical approaches to arrive at the correct mass per unit length. Some participants have shared their calculations, while others are questioning the steps taken and the resulting values. Guidance has been provided regarding the algebraic rearrangement of the formula.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a noted discrepancy in the answers obtained by different participants, indicating potential misunderstandings or miscalculations in the application of the formulas.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a harp string is tuned to middle C (C4) and is 0.56m long. If I want the tension to be 193.5 N, what mass per unit length do I need the harp string to be? Calculate your answer in kg.m

Homework Equations


Vs = sqrt(T/μ)
V = fλ

The Attempt at a Solution


Having a very hard time. I looked up the frequency of a C4= 261.61 Hz. I calculated Vs as 261.61 x 1.12 = 293. Then I attempted (293 x 193.5)sq, but that number is way too high. I am stuck.
 
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Why did you multiply 293 x 193.5?
 
I figured if Vs = sqrt (T/μ), then μ= Vs x T sq
 
If Vs = sqrt(T/μ), then μ = T/Vs2, doesn't it?
 
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Thats what I thought initially! But when I answered 0.436 kg/m the it said it was incorrect.
 
Torrie said:
But when I answered 0.436 kg/m the it said it was incorrect.
I don't see how you got 0.436 kg/m. I got a different answer. Can you write out what you did mathematically.
 
Okay, I see what you did. You divided 193.5 by 293, and then you squared it. It is not (193.5/293)2. It is 193.5/(293)2.
Or another way to do it is divide 193.5 by 293 and then divide that result by 293 again.
 
μ = (T/Vs)sq

T = 193.5
Vs = 293

193.5/291 = .66
.664948sq = .4356 kg / m

This answer was not correct
 
Oh! Okay let me try that
 
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Okay finally! .0022 kg/m is correct. Can you explain to me why it is 193.3/(293) sq instead of (193.3/293)sq?
 
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Torrie said:
Okay finally! .0022 kg/m is correct. Can you explain to me why it is 193.3/(293) sq instead of (193.3/293)sq?
Algebraically, that's how the equation turns out when you rearrange it to solve for μ.

Vs = sqrt(T/μ)
Square both sides of the equation to give:
Vs2 = T/μ
Multiply both sides of the equation by μ to give:
μVs2 = T
Divide both sides of the equation by Vs2 to give:
μ = T/Vs2

Does that make sense?
 
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That does make sense! Thank you so much for all of your help. I really appreciate it!
 
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