Calculating the Probability of a Specific Outcome from Throwing 3 Coins

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of specific outcomes when throwing three coins, focusing on the relationship between the outcomes of the first two coins and the total number of heads obtained from all three coins.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the calculation of probabilities using both logical reasoning and formal mathematical definitions. There are questions regarding the interpretation of conditional probabilities and the correct application of probability formulas.

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Several participants are actively engaging in clarifying the differences between joint and conditional probabilities. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct interpretation of outcomes based on the given conditions, but there remains some uncertainty about specific calculations.

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Participants are discussing the implications of different outcomes based on the number of heads obtained from the coin throws, and there is a noted confusion regarding the total number of possibilities when conditioning on certain outcomes.

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we throw 3 coins

y represents the throw of three coins
x represents the throw of the first two
we count the number of hetz gotten from the thrown coins.

the solution says for the slot that:
P(x=1,y=2)=0.25
but i can't understand how
?
the logical solution says:
for x to be 1 we have 01 10
so for y to be 2 011 101
so with respect to y we have two possibilities from 8

but the formal mathematical says

P(x=1,y=2)=P(x=1)*P(y=2/x=1)
for P(x=1) we need to have 01 10 which is 1/2 or 0.5
for P(y=2/x=1) its 2/8 or 0.25

P(x=1,y=2)=P(x=1)*P(y=2/x=1)=0.5*0.25=0.125
and not 0.25
 
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but the formal mathematical says

P(x=1,y=2)=P(x=1)*P(y=2/x=1)
for P(x=1) we need to have 01 10 which is 1/2 or 0.5
for P(y=2/x=1) its 2/8 or 0.25

looks like the only mistake is in this last line. p(y=2|x=1) would be 1/2

the "logical" solution is fine, and the best way to do the problem.
 
why p(y=2|x=1) 1/2 ?
3 digit gives 8 possibilities
our possibilities are 011 101
so its 1/4
 
You're mixing up p(y=2 and x=1) and p(y=2|x=1). The probability p(y=2 and x=1) is 2/8, but p(y=2|x=1) = p(y=2 and x=1)/p(x=1) = (2/8)/(1/2) = 1/2.

Intuitively, when you're given x=1, the possible outcomes are restricted to 010, 011, 100, and 101, so you divide by 4 instead of 8.
 
thanks i understand now
 
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