Calculating the Speed of a Galaxy Using Diffraction Grating and Doppler Effect

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a galaxy using light diffraction through a grating and the Doppler effect. The original poster presents a scenario involving a diffraction grating with specific parameters and attempts to derive the galaxy's speed based on observed diffraction patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of angles and wavelengths using diffraction equations and the Doppler effect. There are attempts to clarify the correct angle and wavelength values needed for the calculations. Questions arise regarding the normal wavelength of the Helium II line and how to obtain it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and corrections regarding the angle and wavelength calculations. Some guidance has been offered on using the Doppler effect, but there is no consensus on the correct values or methods yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the normal wavelength for the brightest Helium II line, which is essential for the calculations. Participants express uncertainty about the values needed to proceed with the problem.

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Homework Statement


Taking light collected by the telescope and shine it through a diffraction grating with a 765.5 lines/mm. Using the filter that just the brightest Helium II line. you cast the diffraction grating's diffracted pattern on a screen is 22.000cm away and there are 3 dots, m=-1, m=0 amd m=1. the distances between m=-1 and m=1 is 10.7314.

find the speed of the galaxy moving away from us?

Homework Equations



d sin theta =m lambda
y_m=Ltan lambda
Doppler effect

The Attempt at a Solution



At first, I think I need to find the angel by using: y_m=Ltan lambda
then I have: 0.22 tan theta _1 =0.107314/2 → theta=47.3972 degrees

Since I have the angel, I can find the wavelength of the light by using: d sin theta =m lambda
then I have: 1mm/765.5 sin (47.3972)= 1*lambda → lambda = 962 nm

I get stuck at this step, can anyone give me a hit to get the answer?

Thanks
 
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HaLAA said:
At first, I think I need to find the angel by using: y_m=Ltan lambda
then I have: 0.22 tan theta _1 =0.107314/2 → theta=47.3972 degrees
You set this up correctly, but your answer for the angle θ is not correct.

Think about how to use the Doppler effect to get the speed of the galaxy.
 
TSny said:
You set this up correctly, but your answer for the angle θ is not correct.

Think about how to use the Doppler effect to get the speed of the galaxy.

θ=13.7ο,
λ=309nm, this is the initial wavelength.

the equation of the Doppler effect is λ=λ'√(1+v_s/c)/(1-v_s/c)

309nm is λ' , I dont't see how to get λ with the information I have.
 
What is the normal wavelength for the brightest He II line?
 
TSny said:
What is the normal wavelength for the brightest He II line?
I don't know, the question doesn't give me any information about that
 
HaLAA said:
I don't know, the question doesn't give me any information about that
Your text or notes will likely contain the value. If not it can be looked up online. The NIST site should have a table.
 

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