Calculating the speed of longitudinal wave

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The discussion centers on understanding the speed of longitudinal waves, particularly in the context of a slinky. A participant expresses confusion about how the velocity of a wave can be defined when it is not constant, especially when a force is applied. Clarification is provided that the wave's speed is influenced by factors such as the spring constant and linear mass density. The conversation also touches on the relationship between force, momentum, and velocity in wave propagation. Ultimately, the participant gains clarity on how force affects the medium and the resulting changes in velocity.
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I didn't quite understand my professor when he defined the speed of longitudinal wave.
Lets say I have a slinky and on one side we act with a force F along the slinky. Well, he said that this part then starts to move with velocity v.
But how? v isn't constant...

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bolzano95 said:
I didn't quite understand my professor when he defined the speed of longitudinal wave.
Lets say I have a slinky and on one side we act with a force F along the slinky. Well, he said that this part then starts to move with velocity v.
But how? v isn't constant...
Have you seen animations or videos of this situation? As with transverse waves, the spring constant and the linear mass density enter into the equations, right?

Is your main question about the wavefront at the start of a wave packet, or do you have problems with the continuously propagating case too?

 
Of course! I totally get it now :)
I had a problem with the force and the velocity (constant force- velocity is changing). I realized because there is a force acting on the medium and therefore there is a change is momentum. And from this change of momentum you take the velocity, right?
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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