Calculating the spring constant involving energy

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The problem involves calculating the spring constant of a spring compressed by a falling ball. The scenario includes a ball dropped from a height, which compresses the spring upon impact. The subject area relates to mechanics, specifically energy conservation and Hooke's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational potential energy and spring force, questioning the correct application of energy equations versus force equations. There is an exploration of the correct formulation for calculating the spring constant.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting corrections to the original approach. There is a focus on ensuring the correct conversion of units and the proper application of energy principles. Multiple interpretations of the equations are being explored.

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There are mentions of unit conversion issues and the need to clarify the relationship between energy and force terms in the context of the problem. The original poster expresses confusion about the correct method to use.

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Homework Statement


A 142 g ball is dropped from a height of 62.2 cm above a spring of negligible mass. The ball compresses the spring to a maximum displacement of 4.35501 cm. acceleration due to gravity is 9.8. Calculate the the spring force constant K.


Homework Equations



Hooke's law: F=-kx and the potential energy of the spring is given by mg(h+x) because total displacement involves the compression distance x as well as the height of the ball

The Attempt at a Solution


So I got mg(h+x)=-kx,
-mg(h+x)/x=k
(-.142*9.8*(.622+.435501))/.435501=k but I keep getting the wrong answer. What am I doing wrong am I supposed to use PE=1/2kx^2 instead?
 
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rbailey5 said:
So I got mg(h+x)=-kx,
You can't set an energy term equal to a force term.
What am I doing wrong am I supposed to use PE=1/2kx^2 instead?
Yes.
 
ok so you get -(mg(h+x)*2)/x^2=k,

-(2*.142*9.8*(.622+.435501)/.435501^2=k
 
rbailey5 said:
ok so you get -(mg(h+x)*2)/x^2=k,

-(2*.142*9.8*(.622+.435501)/.435501^2=k
Get rid of that minus sign. And be careful when converting cm to m: 4.35 cm = 0.0435 m.
 
sweet thanks!
 

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