Calculating the Stopping distance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the stopping distance of a car under emergency braking conditions, as well as determining the propulsive power of the car's engine while cruising. The problem involves concepts from dynamics, specifically relating to forces, power, and kinematics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between power, force, and mass, questioning how to incorporate mass into the calculations for stopping distance.
  • Some participants provide equations and calculations for power and discuss the relevance of mass in the context of braking distance.
  • There is a discussion about the impact of the coefficient of restitution and the mass of vehicles involved in a collision scenario.

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Participants have offered various equations and insights regarding the calculations needed for both parts of the problem. There is ongoing exploration of whether mass is necessary for determining stopping distance, with some participants suggesting it may not be relevant. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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Participants note that the problem includes specific assumptions such as the coefficient of friction and the distribution of weight on the wheels during braking. There is also mention of the conditions of the vehicles at the moment of impact, which may affect the calculations for post-collision velocities.

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Homework Statement


A car of mass 1000 kg is cruising at 120 km/hr. At this velocity the drag and friction forces that the engine needs to work against is equivalent to 450 N.

(i) What is the propulsive power being delivered by the engine when cruising? (4 marks)

(ii) From a velocity of 100 km/hr, the driver suddenly sees a traffic jam ahead and performs an emergency braking, resulting in locking the four wheels. Calculate the minimum braking distance required to bring the car to a full stop.

Assume the following: The coefficient of friction between the tyres and road is μ = 0.8.
Consider the weight of the vehicle to be equally distributed on each wheel while braking The drag or other friction forces are not significant in this case. g = 9.8 m/s2

Homework Equations


D=V/2*0.8*9.81

The Attempt at a Solution


All i know for the equation is D=V/2*0.8*9.81. However i am not sure how to implement the mass into the equation, Or if there is a different one to use.
 
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The equation you quote is fine for part two. Why do you wish to bring mass into it?
For part one, you need some more standard equations. What ones do you know about power, force, mass, acceleration?
 
I worked out Q 1 = 15KW
By using the P= 450*(120/3.6)=15KW

But for part be i assumed the weight must be added to the equation because it states the mass of the car. Or is that figure irrelevant to work out the distance ?
 
I also forgot to add this to the question..
The driver cannot avoid hitting the vehicle at the back of the queue. At the moment of impact, the driver's car has a remaining velocity of 15 km/hr and hits a stationary van that has a mass 1400 kg.
Assume that both vehicles are in neutral and not braking at the moment of impact. Neglect the effects of friction.

Calculate the velocities of each vehicle after impact if the coefficient of restitution of the vehicles' bumpers is 0.85.
 
xavierengineering said:
I also forgot to add this to the question..
The driver cannot avoid hitting the vehicle at the back of the queue. At the moment of impact, the driver's car has a remaining velocity of 15 km/hr and hits a stationary van that has a mass 1400 kg.
Assume that both vehicles are in neutral and not braking at the moment of impact. Neglect the effects of friction.

Calculate the velocities of each vehicle after impact if the coefficient of restitution of the vehicles' bumpers is 0.85.
That's the part where you need the mass of the car.
 
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I believe you need the mass of the car to get the drag force on it while skidding to a stop.
 
insightful said:
I believe you need the mass of the car to get the drag force on it while skidding to a stop.
No. We are given g, the coefficient of friction, and the initial and final speeds, and we wish to find a distance. None of those involves a mass dimension. Consequently (by dimensional analysis) being told one mass as well cannot be of use.
 
haruspex said:
No. We are given g, the coefficient of friction, and the initial and final speeds, and we wish to find a distance. None of those involves a mass dimension. Consequently (by dimensional analysis) being told one mass as well cannot be of use.
Oops, of course, you're right. My only defense is that the engineer in me is more comfortable going the "F=ma" route.
 

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