Calculating the time to cross a river

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time and distance for a boat crossing a river under the influence of a current. The correct time to cross is established as t = a/V, where 'a' is the width of the river and 'V' is the boat's velocity. The distance calculation involves integrating the velocity components, specifically addressing the variable nature of the north-south component due to the current. The final distance is derived from the integral of the velocity function, correcting the initial misunderstanding that led to an incorrect distance of 1/6.

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Homework Statement
To calculate time to cross a river
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d = st
Could I please ask for help on the last part of this question:

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So, part b, I get the right time but not the right distance.

Book answers are: distance = 1/6 and time = a/V.

Here's my (faulty?) reasoning (LaTeX isn't working for me):

The boat is steered due east and so would have a velocity of V east and 0 north but for the current of speed u = x(a-x)V / a^2 which will push it north, so velocity vector of boat is:

V i + ( x(a-x)V/a^2 ) j

Therefore the position vector of the boat at time t will be:

V t i + ( x(a-x)V t /a^2 ) j - Call this "Equation 1"

We can see that the j component is equal to x(a-x)/a^2 times the i component and so the gradient of this line is a(a-x)/a^2 as required.

So boat will have crossed river when Vt = a and so t = a/V as required.

Finally, to calculate the distance AC, I put this time into the y component of Equation 1 and this gives me y = x(a-x) / a

Not 1 / 6.

Thanks for any help,
Mitch.
 
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The N-S component of the velocity is variable. You have to integrate to get the distance, surely?
 
gnits said:
(faulty?) reasoning
faulty indeed. You can check yourself that this does not satisfy the given equation.

Cause: there is no motion with constant acceleration in the y direction. The river doesn't 'push' with a constant force !

You will have to solve that differential equation to obtain he given answer, which should not be ##1/6## but something with the dimension of length.

gnits said:
LaTeX isn't working for me
That is strange. For most others it works just fine. Do you enclose things in ## for in-line math and in $$ for displayed math ?
e.g. $$ \vec v = V \left ( {\bf\hat\imath } + {x(a-x)\over a^2 } {\bf\hat\jmath } \right ) $$ gives
$$ \vec v = V \left ( {\bf\hat\imath } + {x(a-x)\over a^2 } {\bf\hat\jmath } \right ) $$ (which is correct).
 
Your equation 1 is wrong. The i-component is correct but the j-component is wrong. To find the j-component correctly you have to integrate the velocity ##u##, first replace ##x=Vt## in the expression of ##u## and then integrate with respect to the time ##t##.

EDIT:I edited this post, integration with respect to x was a bad idea.
EDIT2: Well because there is linear relationship between x and t it turns out that the integral $$\int_0^a\frac{x(a-x)}{a^2}dx=\int_0^{\frac{a}{V}}\frac{Vt(a-Vt)}{a^2}Vdt=AC$$
 
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Thanks all for your help. I see my error now. Thanks very much for the quick help.
 

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