Calculating the Year Length of a Gak Planet

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The discussion revolves around calculating the length of a year on a fictional planet inhabited by aliens called Gaks. The problem involves applying Kepler's third law of planetary motion using given parameters such as the distance from the sun and the gravitational force acting on the planet.

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  • The original poster attempts to use Kepler's law to determine the orbital period of the Gak's planet, questioning the accuracy of their calculations. Participants raise questions about the correct interpretation of variables in the formula, particularly regarding the mass used in the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the variables involved in Kepler's third law. There is a focus on whether the mass "M" should represent the mass of the planet or the sun, indicating a productive exploration of the assumptions underlying the calculations.

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There is a suggestion that the radius of the planet may need to be considered in the calculations, and the original poster expresses uncertainty about their previous findings regarding the mass of the planet.

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Question: A Gak it a type of alien that lives on a planet in another galaxy. One day a Gak decides to find out a little more about his planet. He drops a ball (it starts at rest) with a mass of 6.18 kg and notes that it takes 0.928 s to fall a distance of 8.37 m.
The Gak’s planet orbits its sun in a roughly circular orbit. The average distance to the Gak’s sun is 6.85 × 10^8 km. The Gak measures the force of attraction between his planet and his Sun and finds that this is 2.89 × 10^20 N.

How long is a year on the Gak’s planet?My Attempt:

So I started with the formula T^2 = 4(pi^2)(R^3)/GM

R = 6.85*10^8 (from avg distance)

Since on a previous question I found the mass of Gak's planet to be M = 2.12*10^24 (and got it right). Subbing it in & all relevant variables;

So; T^2 = 4(pi^2)(6.85*10^11)^3/(6.67*10^-11)(2.12*10^24)

T = 2.9956*10^11
Then multiply this by 1/(60*60*24*365) for Earth Years, I get;

T = 9499 yrs

And this is apparently wrong...


Can someone tell me what I did wrong? I'm starting to suspect that R didn't include the radius of the planets and I might need to add it in... I've attached the quiz for reference.
 

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Are you sure you are using all the right variables in the formula for Kepler's law?
 
I believe so from my understanding.
 
Stevemotto said:
I believe so from my understanding.

Why did you use ##M = ## mass of the planet?
 
Isn't the "M" variable the mass of the planet?
 
Stevemotto said:
Isn't the "M" variable the mass of the planet?

In Kepler's 3rd law, no. A planet's orbit is independent of its mass.
 
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Oh it's the mass of the sun...
 

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