Calculating the Zeeman Effect: Na Lamp in 0.4T Magnetic Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Zeeman effect for a sodium lamp placed in a magnetic field of 0.4T, specifically focusing on the 3s and 3p states with j=1/2. Participants are attempting to determine the correct Landé g-factors for these states.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Landé g-factors but expresses confusion regarding their values. Other participants are asked to show their work to identify potential errors. Some participants provide their calculations and question the correctness of each other's methods.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning each other's approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations used, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct values for the Landé g-factors yet.

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I have problems with calculation of the Zeemans effect.
A natrium lamp is being placed in magnetic field with B=0.4T. Calculate the Zeemans effect for the states 3s j=1/2 and 3 p j=1/2
The only problem i get in this calculations is the Landes factor...can get the right value

i get for the 3s g= 1 (i know i should get 2) and for the 3p i get 1/3 (i should get 2/3) Am I missing something? can someone check it please?
here is the solution
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2053/namnlsp.jpg
but i still do not understand how they got this numbers...
 
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I get the same answer as them. Please show us your work so we can see where you went wrong.
 
for 3s 1/2 i get
g_{j} = 1+\frac{ \frac{1}{2}\frac{3}{2}-1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{3}{2}}{\frac{3}{2}}=1+1-\frac{2}{3}=2-\frac{2}{3}=\frac{4}{3} now i got something else...its a bit embarrassing;)

i think i caclulate this one correctly
for 3p 1/2 i get
g_{j} = 1+\frac{ \frac{1}{2}\frac{3}{2}-2+\frac{1}{2}\frac{3}{2}}{\frac{3}{2}}=1+\frac{\frac{3}{2}-2}{\frac{3}{2}}= 1-\frac{1}{3}=\frac{2}{3}
 
What equation are you using? Because I see quite a few mistakes. For example, your denominator only has one term. Also the 2nd term in the numerator looks incorrect as well.
 
g_{j}=1+\frac{j(j+1)-l(l+1)+s(s+1)}{2j(j+1)}
 
For the s-state, you know l=0. So l*(l+1) = 0*1 = 0, but you said it is 1 in the other post.

By the way your denominator is right, I was just confused since I just saw the one term. Didn't realize you already did the math.
 

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