Calculating Time Travel & Wormhole Theories

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the equations and theories related to time travel and traversable wormholes, exploring both the mathematical frameworks and conceptual understanding necessary to engage with these topics in physics. Participants express their experiences with the literature and the complexities involved in grasping these advanced concepts.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks equations for calculating time travel without acceleration close to the speed of light and asks for theories on traversable wormholes.
  • Another participant references Matt Visser's book as a comprehensive resource for understanding the mathematics and energy conditions related to wormholes, emphasizing the complexity of general relativity.
  • A participant agrees with the value of Visser's book but notes that it requires substantial background knowledge to fully understand.
  • Time travel via wormholes is also mentioned in another book, "Time Machines," which is described as more accessible but still includes some mathematics.
  • One participant expresses frustration with the literature, indicating that they often need to take breaks to process the information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the complexity of the subject matter and the necessity of a strong background in physics to engage with the literature effectively. However, there is no consensus on specific equations or methods for calculating time travel or traversable wormholes.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of existing literature, including the need for advanced knowledge and the challenges of understanding the mathematical details involved in the theories discussed.

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does anyone have any equations for calculating time travel without an accelration close, equal or greater than the speed of light

or equations or theories that would help me understand traversable wormhole theories and how to calculate them
 
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imperium2600 said:
does anyone have any equations for calculating time travel without an accelration close, equal or greater than the speed of light

or equations or theories that would help me understand traversable wormhole theories and how to calculate them


Matt Visser wrote a whole book about https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563966530/?tag=pfamazon01-20. It's a few years old now, so it doesn't have the very latest latest, but it has all the basics, the math, the various energy conditions and all the rest. You should master what's in it if you want to read papers on the subject intelligently. But don't imagine you can just memorize some equation and calculate from it. GR, indeed all modern physics, is more complicated than that.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
Matt Visser wrote a whole book about https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563966530/?tag=pfamazon01-20. It's a few years old now, so it doesn't have the very latest latest, but it has all the basics, the math, the various energy conditions and all the rest. You should master what's in it if you want to read papers on the subject intelligently. But don't imagine you can just memorize some equation and calculate from it. GR, indeed all modern physics, is more complicated than that.

I really like Visser's book, and I agree that it's the best single resource for understanding the mathematical and physical details in the current literatue, but, because of these things, reading it requires substantial background knowledge.

From Visser's perface: "It would be helpful if the reader were to understand everything in all of these books. Since this is an unreasonable burden to place on even the best physicist, some attempt will be made to make the present monograph self-contained." This quote is preceded by a list of about a dozen advanced books on relativity and quantum field
theory!

Time travel via wormholes is also discussed in "Time Machines : Time Travel in Physics, Metaphysics, and Science Fiction," which is a wonderful book. This book does use a little mathematics, but at a much lower level than does Visser.

Kip Thorne wrote a foreword for the second edition of this book, and here's a quote from this foreword: "It now is not only the most complete documentation of time travel in science fiction; it is also the most thorough review of serious scientific literature on the subject - a review that, remarkably, is scientifically accurate and at the same time largely accessible to a broad audience of nonspecialists."

Regards,
George
 
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thank you for the information

ive been reading a lot on these topics for years, and atleast a dozen times a day i have to walk away from the literature, have a cigarette and just wait for it all to make sense
so far i haven't found many books involving all the math behind it
 

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