Calculating torque about a point with given forces

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The discussion revolves around calculating torque about a point with given forces, specifically focusing on the forces of 100 N and 50 N acting at certain angles. Participants are examining the setup and calculations related to torque, including the angles involved and the resulting torque values.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of calculating angles for the forces and explore alternative methods using right triangle ratios. There are questions about the accuracy of the calculated torque values and the potential for errors in the provided answer key.

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Several participants have arrived at similar torque values, indicating a shared understanding of the calculations. However, there is no consensus on the correctness of the textbook answer, and some participants suggest that there may be an error in the provided worksheet. The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and clarifications.

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There is mention of a missing force or weight in the problem setup, which could affect the calculations. Participants are also referencing a worksheet for practice, which may contain discrepancies in the answers provided.

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Homework Statement
What is the net torque around point A?
Relevant Equations
τ = rF
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I've inserted a photo of the figure, hope everyone can see it.

SOLUTION:
1. I first solved for the angle of 100 N and 50 N since I need the force that is perpendicular to point A.
>> Angle of 100 N
theta = arctan(3/4)
theta = 36.870 degree
>> Angle of 50 N
theta = arctan(12/5)
theta = 67.380 degree
2. Solving for the net torque on point A where counter-clockwise is + and clockwise is -
τ = rF
τ_A = -1[100sin(36.870)] - 1.75(70) - 2[50sin(67.380)]
τ_A = -274.808 Nm

My final answer for the torque at point A is -274.808 Nm, but when I check the answer in the textbook, it is -295 Nm. I am confused about what part I did wrong. Also, I'm new to the forum, so if my format is not understandable, kindly inform me about it. Thanks!
 
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Finding the angles was rather unnecessary since you are given the right triangle ratios. You could just write 100N x 1m x (3/5) etc.
But I get the same answer as you do.
 
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Well, I've got 274.8 as well, though my solution is somewhat less convolute than yours.

Is there anything else to the question ?
 
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haruspex said:
Finding the angles was rather unnecessary since you are given the right triangle ratios. You could just write 100N x 1m x (3/5) etc.
But I get the same answer as you do.
I guess there was just an error in the given answer for the file that I've encountered. Also, thanks for letting me know a solution with less work when involving triangle ratios. Really appreciate it!
 
Nova_Chr0n0 said:
I guess there was just an error in the given answer for the file that I've encountered. Also, thanks for letting me know a solution with less work when involving triangle ratios. Really appreciate it!
Welcome, @Nova_Chr0n0 !

That dimension of 1 m to the right of the figure suggests that either a force that is applied at the right end, or the weight of the 3-meter bar, is missing.
 
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