Calculating Total Charge in a Charged Block and Spring System

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The problem involves two identical metal blocks connected by a spring, with a total charge Q placed on the system. The spring stretches from an unstressed length to an equilibrium length due to the electrostatic repulsion between the charged blocks. The objective is to determine the value of Q in coulombs.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the distribution of charge on the blocks and the forces acting on them, including the spring force and electrostatic force. Questions arise regarding the calculations involving the spring constant, the amount of stretch, and the relationship between the charges.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various calculations and questioning the correctness of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the forces and the charges, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the charges are equal and are questioning the implications of negative signs in their calculations. There is also a focus on ensuring that the net force on each block is zero at equilibrium.

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Two identical metal blocks resting on a frictionless horizontal surface are connected by a light metal spring having constant of 148 N/m and unstretched length of 0.3 m. A total charge of Q is slowly placed on the system causing the spring to stretch to an equilibrium length of 0.7 m. Determine the value of Q, assuming that all the charge resides on the blocks and the blocks can be treated as point charges. Answer in units of C.
I drew a free body diagram, but I have no idea where to go from there.. can someone please help me?
 
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The charge distributes itself equally on the two blocks (how much on each?), thus there is a repulsive electrostatic force between the blocks (Coulomb's law). That force is balanced by the stretched spring, which pulls the blocks together. (What's the spring force?)

Since there's equilibrium, the net force on each block must be zero.
 
so -kx= k*q_1*q_2 /r^2 since it has to equal 0.
(-148)(.3)=9 x 10^9 *q_1*q_2 /(.7)^2
-21.756 = 9 x 10^-9 * q_1 *q_2
-2.42 x 10^-9 = q_1 * q_2
-242 x 10^-9 / 2 = -1.21 x 10^-9 since the charges are equal.
am I doing this right?
 
(1) "x" is the amount the spring stretches. How much is that? (Compare stretched to unstretched length.)

(2) q_1 = q_2. But q_1 doesn't equal (q_1 * q_2)/2 ! (You'll need to take a square root at some point.)
 
ok, so the length that the spring stretches is .4 m.
So -(148)(.4)= 9 x 10^9 *q_1*q_2 / .7^2
-29.01 = 9 x 10^9 * q_1 *q_2
-3.22 x 10^-9 = q_1 * q_2
-3.22 x 10-9 = (q_1)^2
But how can I take the square root of a negative?
 
That negative sign doesn't belong there.
 
Ok so [tex]\sqrt 3.22 x 10^-9[/tex] = 5.68 x 10^-5.
This isn't right.. am I doing something else wrong?
 
You solved for q_1, but you are asked to solve for total charge Q. (I didn't check your arithmetic.)
 

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