Calculating total charge when the electric field is given

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The discussion revolves around calculating total charge from a given electric field using Gauss' law. Participants are exploring the implications of their calculations and the behavior of electric fields in relation to point charges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different approaches to applying Gauss' law, including the use of divergence and the implications of the electric field's behavior at large distances. Questions arise regarding discrepancies in results and the significance of contributions from point charges.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions about the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the validity of methods at specific points and the implications of the electric field's behavior.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the presence of a charge at the origin and how to account for it in calculations. Participants are also considering the effects of the exponential term in the electric field's behavior as distance increases.

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Calculate the total charge of an unknown charge distribution for which the electric field is E=q/r^2 e^(-4r) r ̂
Relevant Equations
E.A = q/ε0
∇·E = ρ/ε0
I first tried to use the Gauss' law equation E.A = q/ε0 to find the total charge enclosed. The answer came out to be q(enclosed) = 4πqε0e^(-4r). So for r approaching infinity, q(enclosed) approached 0.

Next, I tried the equation ∇·E = ρ/ε0, calculated rho to be -4qε0e^(-4r)/r^2 and total charge to be -4πqε0.

Why are the answers different although both are derived from Gauss' law? What did I do wrong?
 

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Your computation for the divergence of the electric field is only valid for ##r > 0##. This means that you will miss the contribution from the point charge at the origin.
 
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Another thing you might think about is how the given electric field behaves as ##r## gets really big. Compare this to what the field of any point charge, ##q_o##, behaves for large ##r##. What does ##q_o## have to equal so that these distant fields are the same.
 
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Paul Colby said:
Another thing you might think about is how the given electric field behaves as ##r## gets really big. Compare this to what the field of any point charge, ##q_o##, behaves for large ##r##. What does ##q_o## have to equal so that these distant fields are the same.

For both the cases, the electric field approaches 0 as r approaches large numbers. Only conclusion I can draw from this is that the given electric field falls to 0 faster due to the exponential term.
 
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Orodruin said:
Your computation for the divergence of the electric field is only valid for ##r > 0##. This means that you will miss the contribution from the point charge at the origin.

I am not sure I am able to understand. How do I know that there is a charge at the centre and how should I calculate it?
 
If you compute the divergence with a method valid at ##r = 0##, you will find that, apart from your result, there is a delta function at the origin.

Alternatively, you can check this by taking the flux through a sphere with ##r \to 0##, which will yield a non-zero result, indicating that there is a point charge at the origin.
 
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Yes.
 
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