Calculating trajectory electric field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the trajectory of a charged particle in an electric field generated by stationary source charges. Participants are exploring the relationship between electric fields and the motion of charged particles, particularly in the context of electrostatics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the possibility of calculating particle trajectories analytically using the electric field, questioning how to approach the differential equation governing the motion. Some suggest numerical methods as an alternative, while others express interest in solving the differential equation directly.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing thoughts on both numerical and analytical methods for solving the problem. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the application of differential equations, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

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Participants are operating under the assumption that magnetic forces are negligible and are focusing solely on the electric field's influence on the particle's motion. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity compared to simpler mechanics problems.

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In my class we have so far only dealt with electrostatics, i.e. fields of stationary charge distributions. However one question arose while doing so: Given a set of stationary source charges we can calculate the electric field at each point in space. But will that give us enough information to calculate the trajectory of a particle with known charge q and mass m placed at an arbitrary point in space?

Numerically it wouldn't be hard, but is it possible to do analytically for alle kinds of fields? We neglect magnetic forces even though I know they are present. I'm not really sure how you should do it.
 
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hi aaaa202! :smile:
aaaa202 said:
… will that give us enough information to calculate the trajectory of a particle with known charge q and mass m placed at an arbitrary point in space?

electric field is force per charge … F = qE

force = mass times acceleration … F = m d2r/dt2

if you know E as a function of r, you should be able to solve that :wink:
 
Well it is definitely less obvious what to do than the constant acceleration problems you did in mechanics.

How would you do it?
You could always do it numerically. Like say make a timestep of 0.001sec and then calculate the acceleration and where to the particle has gone after that little timestep. But how would you do it with calculus?

You mention the differential equation:

qE(r) = md2r/dt2

Can you simply solve that for the correct trajectory?

if so, then I love differential equation solutions
 
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aaaa202 said:
qE(r) = md2r/dt2

Can you simply solve that for the correct trajectory?

if so, then I love differential equation solutions

yes, simply solve the differential equation :smile:

(for example, if E is the electric field of a single charge, then the trajectories will be the same as the orbits of a planet round the sun)
 

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