Calculating Uncertainty: What is the Effect of θ?”

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The discussion revolves around calculating the uncertainty in the angle θ and its implications on the actual error and percentage uncertainty. Participants are exploring the relationship between fractional error and uncertainty in the context of a specific problem involving θ.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the correctness of the relevant equations and the implications of different values of θ on uncertainty. There is a focus on understanding the difference between fractional uncertainty and fractional error, as well as how these concepts relate to the options presented in the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the relationships between errors and uncertainties. Some participants are exploring multiple interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the implications of the percentage uncertainty being constant across different values of θ.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of uncertainty and error, as well as how they apply to the problem at hand. Participants are navigating through these concepts while adhering to the constraints of the homework guidelines.

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Absolute uncertainty in θ = δθ/θ

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I know that smaller θ gives smaller actual uncertainty, thus leaving B and D out. The answer is C. but what about option A?
 
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Your relevant equation is wrong.
If the fractional error in X is r, how large is the actual error in X? How large then is the actual error in theta?
 
haruspex said:
Your relevant equation is wrong.
If the fractional error in X is r, how large is the actual error in X? How large then is the actual error in theta?
The actual error in X would be rX? And rθ?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
The actual error in X would be rX? And rθ?
Yes. So what is the fractional error in theta?
 
haruspex said:
Yes. So what is the fractional error in theta?
r ?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
r ?
Right. Can you now see why A is wrong?
 
haruspex said:
Right. Can you now see why A is wrong?
No ..sorry..
If actual uncertainty in θ is r, then the percentage uncertainty of θ would be r x100 right? Isn't the effect the same?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
No ..sorry..
If actual uncertainty in θ is r, then the percentage uncertainty of θ would be r x100 right?
No, the percentage uncertainty is 100x fractional uncertainty.
 
haruspex said:
No, the percentage uncertainty is 100x fractional uncertainty.
What's the difference between fractional uncertainty and fractional error?
 
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Janiceleong26 said:
What's the difference between fractional uncertainty and fractional error?
Sorry, I didn't notice I had switched from uncertainty to error. For the purposes of this question it makes no difference.
So in your post #5, you have that if the fractional (or percentage) uncertainty in x is r then the fractional (or percentage) uncertainty in theta is r.
Can you see how that conflicts with A?
 
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haruspex said:
Sorry, I didn't notice I had switched from uncertainty to error. For the purposes of this question it makes no difference.
So in your post #5, you have that if the fractional (or percentage) uncertainty in x is r then the fractional (or percentage) uncertainty in theta is r.
Can you see how that conflicts with A?
Ohhhh...is it because the percentage uncertainty would be the same for all values of θ, but the uncertainty itself varies?
 
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Janiceleong26 said:
Ohhhh...is it because the percentage uncertainty would be the same for all values of θ, but the uncertainty itself varies?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.
Thanks
 

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