Calculating Velocity in a Charge/Field Interaction: A Homework Challenge

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating velocity in the context of a charge and field interaction, specifically focusing on the forces and potential energy involved between charged objects. The original poster attempts to understand how to derive velocity from given variables such as charge, time, distance, and mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of conservation laws, particularly the relationship between potential and kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the type of potential energy involved and how it relates to the overall energy of the system.

Discussion Status

Guidance has been offered regarding the potential energy calculations and their transformation into kinetic energy. Participants are actively discussing the implications of their assumptions and the necessity of certain factors in their equations, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of constraints related to the original poster's understanding of conservation laws, as they have not been discussed in their coursework. The discussion also touches on the specifics of energy distribution among multiple charges.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F=kqQ/D^2=Ma
E=kQ/D^2
D=vt?

The Attempt at a Solution


So far, I've been able to label the forces on each ship through superposition. But that is all I currently able to understand. I know that my end solution is a speed/velocity, but I am not sure how to get there with the given (Q, t, D, and M)

Any help and direction would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Have you considered a conservation law approach?
 
I have not because we haven't discussed it. How might I use said approach?
 
Callix said:
I have not because we haven't discussed it. How might I use said approach?
Usually one considers the trade off between potential and kinetic energy. What form of potential energy is involved here?
 
gneill said:
Usually one considers the trade off between potential and kinetic energy. What form of potential energy is involved here?

There is definitely potential energy between each ship.
 
Callix said:
There is definitely potential energy between each ship.
Yes... what type and how much?
 
gneill said:
Yes... what type and how much?

Electrical Potential Energy
U12=kq1q2/D
U23=kq2q3/D
U13=kq1q3/D
 
What's the total PE of the system in terms of the variables that you were given?
 
U(total) = 3* kq^2/D, right?
 
  • #10
Callix said:
U(total) = 3* kq^2/D, right?
Looks good.

So how will that change as the ships all tend towards infinite separation? Where will it go?
 
  • #11
gneill said:
Looks good.

So how will that change as the ships all tend towards infinite separation? Where will it go?

All the potential will simply turn into kinetic energy right?
 
  • #12
Callix said:
All the potential will simply turn into kinetic energy right?
That's right.
 
  • #13
gneill said:
That's right.

Alright, so then 3* kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2 and just solve for v
 
  • #14
Callix said:
Alright, so then 3* kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2 and just solve for v
Remember that the energy will be split three ways.
 
  • #15
gneill said:
Remember that the energy will be split three ways.

So is the multiplying by 3 completely necessary if the charges and D are the same? Couldn't I just solve it as kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2
 
  • #16
Callix said:
So is the multiplying by 3 completely necessary if the charges and D are the same? Couldn't I just solve it as kq^2/D=1/2Mv^2
Sure. In your presented solution be sure to state why you are justified in doing it.
 
  • #17
gneill said:
Sure. In your presented solution be sure to state why you are justified in doing it.

Ah okay, I understand now! Thank you very much! :)
 

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