Calculating Velocity of a Car Rolling Off a Cliff

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The problem involves a car rolling down an incline and off a cliff, requiring the calculation of its velocity at the moment it leaves the cliff. The scenario is set in the context of kinematics, specifically focusing on motion under the influence of gravity.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the gravity vector into components and applying kinematic equations. There are attempts to calculate the velocity of the car at the point it leaves the cliff, with some questioning the relevance of average speed in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different approaches to the problem. Some express confusion about the calculations and the information provided, while others seek clarification on the specific goals of the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome yet.

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Participants note the importance of determining the car's velocity as it leaves the cliff, indicating potential gaps in the information shared. There is also mention of a quadratic equation derived from the motion equations, suggesting the complexity of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A car is parked on an incline of 15.6 degrees below the horizontal, the brakes fail and it rolls down the incline 27.5m and off the edge of a cliff that is 57m above the ground. Find the car's position when it its the ground relative to the base of the cliff.


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rather than type them all out, I'll just say kinematics.


The Attempt at a Solution


I know you have to break the gravity vector up into components so I took -9.8 sin(15.6) = -2.63 m/s^2. I keep calculating the average speed of the car, not the speed at the point it goes off the cliff. Please help, thanks!
 
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v^2=u^2+2as, so the car is traveling at (2*9.8sin(15.6)*27.5)^0.5 when it goes off the cliff.
 
You have not said enough. You keep calculating the average speed. Do you want to calculate the average speed? Could you use the average speed? What is your plan for this question?
 
cosmo123 said:
v^2=u^2+2as, so the car is traveling at (2*9.8sin(15.6)*27.5)^0.5 when it goes off the cliff.

Thanks, but I'm still getting the wrong answer. I end up with the velocity of the car being 12.04 m/s when it leaves the cliff. So initial velocity in the y direction when the car leaves the cliff should be 12.04*sin(15.6) = 3.24. Plug that into y=Vi(t)-4.92(t)^2 to solve for t. End up with 57 = 3.24(t) - 4.92(t)^2.. rewritten in quadratic form.. 4.92t^2-3.24t-57=0. then t = 3.748 seconds which is not correct.
 
vertigo said:
You have not said enough. You keep calculating the average speed. Do you want to calculate the average speed? Could you use the average speed? What is your plan for this question?

How is that not enough information? You have a car rolling down a slope then off a cliff. You obviously need to know the velocity of the car as it rolls of the cliff to answer the question. I calculated the acceleration but couldn't remember how to get Vfinal.
 

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