Calculating Velocity of a Projectile 0.1s Before Hitting Ground

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the velocity of a projectile just before it hits the ground, specifically 0.1 seconds prior to impact. The projectile is launched from a cliff with an initial velocity and angle, and the discussion includes details about its range and height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to find the velocity components and question the need for additional triangles or values for time. There are attempts to clarify the correct formulas for calculating velocity magnitude and direction.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the projectile's velocity, with some providing hints and others expressing uncertainty about the results. There is no explicit consensus on the approach, but various suggestions and corrections are being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of distinguishing between velocity and distance formulas, and there is mention of specific values for time and angles that are relevant to the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A projectile is launched from the top of a cliff with an initial velocity of 20m/s at 30deg. above the horizontal. It hits the ground 3.0s later. Given projectile range is 52m and height is 14.1m, how do i calculate it velocity(magnitude and direction) 0.1s before it hits the ground?

Homework Equations


d=vit+1/2at^2
vf=vi+at

The Attempt at a Solution


I already calculated the range and the height, but i don't know how to do the velocity before it hits the ground based on those figures in the question. Please hints? Do i have to draw another triangle for the landing and use a new value for time or something?
 
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Can't you just use y = Vi*t + .5*a*t^2 ?
Vi is 20*sin(30) so you know everything.
 
Well, they got 25.3m/s at 47deg below the horizontal...so...i'm not sure how they got there...any hints please? thanks.
 
Sorry, Irish - I glossed over the problem and didn't see "magnitude and direction" and of course you need velocity formulas, not the distance one. The thing is the velocities for all times are given by
Vx = 20*cos(30) and Vy = Vi + at = 20*sin(30) - gt
so you just evaluate at the time you want. Then combine the two vectors - triangle, pythagorean theorem and a tan calc for the angle.
 
I got a triangle with sides 10m/s vertical, 17.3m/s horizontal, and 20m/s hypotenuse. I"m lost now ...
 
Vy = Vi + at = 20*sin(30) - gt at time 2.9 is -18.4
so you have 17.3 to the right and 18.4 down.
You want the angle with horizontal, the angle in the triangle adjacent to the 17.3 side. Just right tan of that angle = opposite/adjacent.
Do inverse tan of both sides and you have your angle.
 

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