Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on calculating vibrations in pipes with water flowing through them, specifically in relation to noise comparison between pipes of different inner diameters. Participants explore various factors influencing vibration and noise generation in this context, including turbulence and external influences.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant inquires about the calculation of vibrations in a pipe with flowing water, expressing uncertainty about the starting point or formulas needed.
- Another participant suggests that water flowing through a pipe does not typically cause regular oscillation vibrations, questioning whether an external source is involved.
- A different participant notes that if the inquiry is for research or homework, turbulence in the water flow must be considered, which depends on factors like water speed and pipe design. They mention that smoother pipe surfaces may lead to less turbulence and, consequently, less vibration.
- One participant asks if the original poster is referring to the phenomenon of water hammer, indicating a specific type of vibration.
- Another participant introduces the concept of induced vibrations due to vortex shedding from valves and pumps, emphasizing that noise from piping is often related to vibrations.
- The original poster clarifies their interest in the noise generated by vibrations and specifies a desire to compare oscillation frequencies of two pipes with different inner diameters, rather than calculating the actual noise levels.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the significance of vibrations in flowing pipes, with some suggesting that it is not a major concern in practical scenarios, while others highlight specific conditions that could lead to vibrations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculate or compare the vibrations and noise generated by the pipes.
Contextual Notes
Participants mention various factors affecting turbulence and vibration, but do not reach a consensus on the specific calculations or models to use. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the relevance of certain phenomena, such as water hammer and vortex shedding, in the context of the original inquiry.