Calculating Volume of a Hollow Sphere w/ Differentials

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of a hollow sphere using differentials and integrals. The first method, utilizing differentials, yields a volume of 277.08 cm³, while the integral approach results in 277.75 cm³. The discrepancy arises because the differential method assumes the inner and outer surface areas are identical, leading to an approximation error. The correct volume can be derived by subtracting the inner sphere's volume from the outer sphere's volume, eliminating approximation errors.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of calculus, specifically differentials and integrals.
  • Familiarity with the formula for the volume of a sphere: V = (4/3)πr³.
  • Knowledge of approximation methods in calculus.
  • Basic geometric concepts related to hollow shapes.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of differentials in volume calculations.
  • Learn about the error analysis in approximation methods in calculus.
  • Explore the derivation of the volume of hollow spheres using integrals.
  • Investigate the geometric interpretations of calculus concepts.
USEFUL FOR

Students of calculus, mathematics educators, and anyone interested in the practical applications of differentials and integrals in geometry.

Dethrone
Messages
716
Reaction score
0
This is probably an elementary question, but I stumbled upon it while thinking about total differentials. One of their many applications is calculating the error in a volume, for example, given uncertainties in its dimensions.
I'm not in the mood to tackle a 3D problem, so let's revert to a 2D problem :D

Suppose you have a (hollow) sphere, made of some metal with radius 21 cm. The metal is 0.05 cm thick. Calculus the amount of metal.

Using differentials, we have $dV=4 \pi r^2 \,dr=4\pi (21)^2(0.05)$

I was thinking...couldn't this problem be also solved this way?
$$\int_r^{r+\Delta r}4\pi r^2 \,dr=\int_{21}^{21.05}4 \pi r^2 \,dr$$
The first method gives me $277.08 \text{ cm}^3$ where as the second gives me $277.75\text{ cm}^3$. Why are they different?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Rido12 said:
This is probably an elementary question, but I stumbled upon it while thinking about total differentials. One of their many applications is calculating the error in a volume, for example, given uncertainties in its dimensions.
I'm not in the mood to tackle a 3D problem, so let's revert to a 2D problem :D

Suppose you have a (hollow) sphere, made of some metal with radius 21 cm. The metal is 0.05 cm thick. Calculus the amount of metal.

Using differentials, we have $dV=4 \pi r^2 \,dr=4\pi (21)^2(0.05)$

I was thinking...couldn't this problem be also solved this way?
$$\int_r^{r+\Delta r}4\pi r^2 \,dr=\int_{21}^{21.05}4 \pi r^2 \,dr$$
The first method gives me $277.08 \text{ cm}^3$ where as the second gives me $277.75\text{ cm}^3$. Why are they different?

Hey Rido! (Wave)

In your first method, you have the surface of the inner sphere times its thickness $\Delta r$.
It makes the assumption that the inner surface area is the same as the outer surface area.
Since the outer surface area is actually a little bit bigger, the result is slightly too low.
It is only an approximation.

In your second method, you do effectively the same thing, but with an infinitesimal thickness $dr$ instead of the actual thickness $\Delta r$. Then this infinitesimal volume gets summed over the ever larger sphere areas.
This way, the volume is correct.

The alternative interpretation of the second method, is that you take the total volume of the outer sphere $\frac 43 \pi (r+\Delta r)^3$ and subtract the total volume of the inner sphere $\frac 43 \pi r^3$. With this method there is no approximation error.

Btw, in this case the approximation error of your first method is:
$$4\pi r (\Delta r)^2 + \frac 4 3 \pi (\Delta r)^3$$
This can be found by expanding $\frac 4 3 \pi (r+\Delta r)^3$.
 
Hey ILS! (Wave)

Thanks for the awesome response! I guess I was distracted by the notation rather than thinking about it geometrically. I also don't recall the book mentioning that those application questions involving differentials were approximations, so I was thinking they were exact results. Now that I think about it, my prof. last semester did talk very briefly about the error associated with it, but he had already lost most of the class by then. :p
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
31K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K