Calculating Work Against Friction in a Loop-the-Loop Track

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The problem involves calculating the work done against friction when pushing an object up a loop-the-loop track. It includes considerations of mass, radius, height, and the coefficient of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the direction of the normal force and its relationship to the loop's geometry. There are attempts to clarify how to determine the normal force and the frictional force based on the given variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between the forces involved and questioning the assumptions made about the problem setup. No consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that no numerical values are provided, only variables related to mass, radius, height, and the coefficient of friction.

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Homework Statement


You push an object of mass slowly, partway up a loop-the-loop track of radius , starting from the bottom, where the normal force to the track is vertically upward, and ending at a point a height above the bottom. The coefficient of friction between the object and the track is a constant .Find the work you do against friction.


Homework Equations

Work against friction= Friction Force x Displacement



The Attempt at a Solution


Not how to get the height of the car. I believe that the friction part would simply be (Kinetic Friction)x(Normal Force). But I'm not entirely sure about how to get the normal force either
 
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In what direction (relative to the surface) does the normal force act?
 
I think that it acts towards the center of the loop
 
Do they give any numbers or variables?
 
No, no numbers are given
 
the variables are m-mass Radius-R an ending point of h<R and the coefficient of friction is u
 
Suppose theta is the angle the surface forms with the horizontal... what is the normal force in terms of theta. What is the frictional force?
 

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