Calculating work against gravity

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The problem involves calculating the work against gravity required to construct a brick structure with a square base and specified dimensions. The density of the brick is provided, and the task is to determine the work done in lifting the bricks to build the structure.

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  • Participants discuss the integration process used to calculate work, including volume, mass, and force. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the computations and the application of gravitational force in the calculations. Some participants question the assumptions regarding how different bricks are lifted to varying heights.

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Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the calculations and the correct application of gravitational force. Some participants have provided answers that differ from textbook solutions, prompting further inquiry into the reasoning behind these discrepancies.

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There is mention of confusion arising from the use of Imperial units in calculations, which may contribute to errors in understanding the problem. The discussion highlights the complexity of lifting bricks to different heights during construction.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the work against gravity required to build a structure out of brick. The structure has a square base with 10ft sides and is 20ft high. The density of brick is around 80lb/ft^3

Homework Equations



W=∫F*d

The Attempt at a Solution



First I found the volume where V=(102) Δy
Then I found the mass=(ρ)(V)=(80)(102) Δy
Then I found the force=(gravity)(m)=(32.2)(80)(102) Δy
Then I integrated between 0 and 20 with respect to y=∫(32.2)(80)(102)y dy
which gave me 128800y2 between 0 and 20= 51520000 ft*lb
my answer is not correct and I'm not sure if I'm computing properly.
 
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getty102 said:

Homework Statement



Calculate the work against gravity required to build a structure out of brick. The structure has a square base with 10ft sides and is 20ft high. The density of brick is around 80lb/ft^3

Homework Equations



W=∫F*d

The Attempt at a Solution



First I found the volume where V=(102) Δy
Then I found the mass=(ρ)(V)=(80)(102) Δy
Then I found the force=(gravity)(m)=(32.2)(80)(102) Δy
Then I integrated between 0 and 20 with respect to y=∫(32.2)(80)(102)y dy
which gave me 128800y2 between 0 and 20= 51520000 ft*lb
my answer is not correct and I'm not sure if I'm computing properly.

Tell us what you think the correct answer is.

RGV
 
My final answer came out to be 5.152*10^7 ft*lb, but that was incorrect.
 
getty102 said:
My final answer came out to be 5.152*10^7 ft*lb, but that was incorrect.

Yes, you said that. I was asking what you thought was the _correct_ answer.

RGV
 
According to my textbook, the answer is W=1.6*10^6 ft*lb.
 
getty102 said:
According to my textbook, the answer is W=1.6*10^6 ft*lb.

(1) Why did you multiply by g (the acceleration of gravity)? A brick's weight is _already_ the force exerted by gravity: the "pound" is a force unit. (That is what happens when people use the confusing and outdated Imperial system of measurements in *technical* discussions; errors creep in all too easily. Imperial units are OK at cocktail parties and in backyard chats, but they ought to be eliminated from scientific computations.)

(2) Some bricks are lifted different heights. The bricks on the bottom are not lifted at all; the ones at the top are lifted the full 20 ft. Others are lifted only part way up.

RGV
 

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