Calculating Tension in a Horizontal Clothesline with Vectors

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a horizontal clothesline with a mass of 3 kilograms tied to the middle. The question asks for the magnitude of tension on the ends of the clothesline. After calculating the necessary components and using the correct value for gravity, the correct answer was found.
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For some reason I'm really struggling to get a correct answer on this problem

"A horizontal clothesline is tied between 2 poles, 20 meters apart.
When a mass of 3 kilograms is tied to the middle of the clothesline, it sags a distance of 4 meters.

What is the magnitude of the tension on the ends of the clothesline?"

Work:
Fg = 3kg*9.81m/s^2 = 29.43
found θ with arctan(4m/10m) = 21.8°
moving the origin onto the point on the forces I then used component tree to solve for the y-direction where
Ft*sin(21.8)+Ft*sin(21.8)-Fg=0,
and ignored x since they would cancel out.

the answer I got was Ft = 39.623N
when I work in reverse the magnitude gives me the correct #s and everything adds to 0.

It's been a long time since I've done this kind of physics so maybe I'm missing something dumb here. But I can't find it.
 
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Seems fine to me. Why do you think there is a problem?
 
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It is an online problem so it gives feedback and apparently this is an incorrect answer.
 
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Some automated answer checkers will be very particular about what type of answers they accept. Minor things such as the number of decimals, the value of g that you use, or rounding errors can play a role in this.
 
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Thanks I got it apparently I had to use exactly 9.8 for gravity.
 

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In Calc III, scalar quantities are those that have only magnitude (size or amount) and no direction, while vector quantities have both magnitude and direction. Examples of scalar quantities include speed, temperature, and mass, while examples of vector quantities include velocity, force, and displacement.

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